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Was my thoughts, and I just shut down magic item creation in the campaign to avoid the argument. Thanks for your thoughts and the quick clarification.


I have a particular group of min-max players trying to get a huge advantage of the rules and make high powered items at low level. They read the magic item creation rules and the part about increasing the DC by 5 for each pre-requisite they don't have for the item. Essentially they view the gold cost as a prerequisite and want to bypass it by making the DC 5 higher. I haven't seen anything crystal clear in the rules regarding this, if this is a prerequisite you can bypass, but if so, then it can get characters powered up very quick and really tip the scales to overpowered characters. Is there an official rule or errata I've missed or misinterpreted or did my group find a major loophole?


The question I have may seem simple, but it derailed a game session for almost an hour while the group debated it. The rules in the Core Rulebook for caster level needed to create a magic weapon seems very clear (3 X the biggest enhancement bonus or special ability bonus), thus a +3 longsword would require a minimum caster level of 9 to create the weapon. The issue came up about adding multiple special abilities to a sword.

For example, let's say a 5th level character (minimum level needed for magic weapon creation feat) wants to create a magic longsword, that is +1 enhancement bonus, and has the abilities of Bane, Frost, Flaming, Shock, and Thundering on it. Each of those abilities is just +1. Would the 5th level character be able to craft this weapon? The rules state that the minimal caster level needed to create a magic weapon is again just 3X the enhancement bonus, or biggest ability bonus, whichever is larger. So, seeing that all of the ability bonuses are just +1, the 5th level character could make this weapon (assuming the character has the gold necessary, can made the spellcraft check, and has all the available spells).

This seems like a very over-powered weapon for a 5th level character to create. Is there some Errata or FAQ that addresses this? I would love any thoughts on this.