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eh .. I just followed the link on the d20PFSRD to the [source] that was by the Intelligence section ..

Just found out I was doing these rules differently for years because of a 'homebrew rules' me and some friends used for the longest time is all.

BTW, you also necro'd a thread that hadn't been posted to in over 10 years (and was started when PF 1E was less than a year old).

You get the skill points retroactively for increasing int with the ASIs from levels. Similarly increasing your con from 17 to 18 at level 4 grants you +1 additional hp from levels 1-3.

Stuff in PF 1e applies retroactively unless stated otherwise. The headband is the exception to this rule as they had to FAQ it.

If you homebrew it another way, that's nice. But please don't come into the rules forum with that homebrew and potentially confuse people who might think that's true.

My bad .. I should have stated about the gaining languages was a 'homebrew' on my play style part and not in the rules.

The way I see this:

Permanent Bonuses: Ability bonuses with a duration greater than 1 day actually increase the relevant ability score after 24 hours. Modify all skills and statistics as appropriate. This might cause you to gain skill points, hit points, and other bonuses. These bonuses should be noted separately in case they are removed.

Say you wizard started out with a 17 INT .. and at 4th-lvl gained the ability increase +1 to INT and you have an 18 INT.

I see it like this: you went from a +3 bonus on all INT Skills to a +4 bonus (hence increasing skill ranks retroactively.) Also, at 4th-lvl you get the +4 now to the Class 2 skill points to equal +6 skill ranks instead of having only the +5 with the 17 INT.

That's how I've always saw that. Not gaining an additional skill rank for 1st - 3rd levels "retroactively".

For me this also works for bonus languages you get .. again 17 INT at start of game getting 3 languages plus racial ..
Now at 4th-lvl you gained an 18 INT granting an additional language you can learn. (it should not be instantaneous, it should be learned during the course of play IMHO).

Shop is still not accepting my Credit Card info, it's valid I know. All I want is some PDF's .. lol ..

<sigh> guess we have to wait on them to fix it ..