| VictorTheII |
I was browsing the What do you still need thread and was going to make a post about wanting an option for a divine spell list bard. Music is an important theme in various religions and Galorian is somewhat aware of this given the existence of creatures such as the Choral.
But before I said I'd be fine with either a Bard Class Archetype or a new Cleric Doctrine, I thought to experiment with building this concept myself using cleric as a base and Mard as a Multiclass and not taking any of the occult spell slots, to see if I could fulfill the fantasy I wanted.
The answer was sort of. Fantasy would not be fulfilled at level 2 since i'd have to pick utility cantrips. Even if I started with a 16 in charisma I couldn't improve my spell attack rolls without getting occult spell slots.
At level 4 the fantasy would be fulfilled so long as I picked polymath muse at level 2 in order to take Versatile Performance now, which would give me plenty of mileage out of the Performance skill. Maestro feels like it would have fit the flavor better (It outright references Choral Angels) but Lingering Composition is useless until I get a composition cantrip, which I can't do at level 2.
So that leaves level 6 as a sweet spot where my divine singer fantasy comes online. If I went Polymath I can now pick counter performance and if I picked maestro I had the time to grab Inspire Competence to pair with Lingering Composition
This felt fine for me personally, I've previously had a 5e build planned that came online at around level 9. Character died just before that point but I knew the risks.
However Paizo seems to have a design philosophy of giving you all the tools you need to fulfil a fantasy as early as level 2. Alchemist and Magus for example are feature rich classes that pile on multiple mechanics on you at level 1 (Advanced Alchemy/Quick Alchemy and Spellstrike/Spellstrike recharging focus spells/Arcane Cascade respectively), despite it making the classes harder to grasp for new players.
Which brings me to my question. What is the maximum level one should reasonably wait for a build to come online in this system?