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If you know this guy cheats, and has for 20 years, why are you trusting him?

I was trusting him until he started making blatant mistakes. So now I'm not trusting him again, but I want to trust everyone because it's a major headache when I can't.

Like I said, he's a great guy outside of the cheating thing and one of my best friends. Dam, now I feel like a wife trying to change her husband. lol.

I've considered kicking him and our friendship would still be fine, but spare time is hard to come by these days, any time I can spend with my friends is valued. Hopefully some of you can relate.

Talking to him is going to be awkward, but I guess it has to be done. He gets defensive about stuff like this.

If you want to make it look like you're not singling him out, keep track of the resources of other party members (Things like Smite Evil and Wildshapes).

Just keeping track of his Ki is distracting enough, GMs have a lot of shit to look after. I can't imagine keeping track of everyone's dailies. Honestly, everyone's a grown up, I just want to trust everyone and run the game.

At first I wasn't tracking his Ki, but then I noticed he used 5 points in a day when he only had 3.

Then I started tracking, which is why I know he's making mistakes or cheating. But then we have an argument about how many he's used. Also, sometimes I forget to track them. I would like to not track them at all.

I'm somewhat confused as to how he's making full attacks after moving. If I'm reading this correctly, you're the GM correct? Just say "no, you moved, you can't do that." and it's done.

Yes and I do that at least once per game! He just doesn't get it. When other people try to explain it to him, he gets mad. Luckily, it's so obvious that he never gets away with it. It's just annoying that the same rule problem comes up again and again. I think I'm just going to force him to read the chapter on attacks, embarrassing or not.

After that, I think I'll bring out the chips like several people suggested.

I think some players will consider anything the GM/DM doesn't call them out on, or that that GM/DM doesn't seem to fully grasp, as potential fair game for getting one over on them and their devious GM'y omnipotent machinations.

Yes, and the other players are a little like that too. They see the game as GM vs player (we had a discussion about that). They don't cheat but they only correct me when it's in their favor also.

I have one player that reminds me of things, and he's not always there (and misses things himself). Usually I don't make many mistakes, but sometimes I have off nights when I don't prepare enough. And I always think of the mistakes afterwards, anyone else do that?

We're playing an AP where everyone is the same level, so XP penalties won't work.

I am probably going to talk to everyone about helping me use the correct rules when I forget. The problem is, what is their incentive? I think I'd rather use a carrot than a stick to motivate them.

I should probably also mention that I've had discussions with him about this before, specifically in game. But then he argues that I didn't count the number of Ki used properly... which is bullshit. Especially when the other players back me up on it.

But sometimes I don't notice (how much he's used) or other problems until 2-3 rounds later, and by then it's to late to retcon everything. So he gets away with stuff.

Luckily, he's playing a ninja and not a druid or other spellcaster and it's pretty easy to keep track of his Ki.

Yeah, this same friend, I had to ban him from using his super tiny dice (that no one could read, even beside him). When he was cheating badly, I had him use the large foam D20s... but how embarassing is that? I guess it worked since he stopped. So dice rolling cheating is not a concern now.

I've read some other cheating threads, but I didn't find any answers that I found suitable with this particular problem.

So I have a player that cheats. Currently, he cheats in the following ways:

1) He uses his Ninja Ki power more times per day than he can use.

2) He uses his sneak attack against concealed targets (when I forget), even though he should know the rules (he's been reminded many times before).

3) He even tries to do full attacks each and every round, even when moving more than 5'. I'm not sure if he's being unintentionally dense, but it's strange that someone with a PHD can't understand a basic concept like this after years.

Basically, if I forget some limitation or a rule (and it benefits him), he'll just play with everything to his advantage. He has done this for... 20 years.

In the past, he's also cheated on dice rolls and other things, although he hasn't done that lately (according to the other players).

I think the typical answer would be "kick him out of your game" and I'd do that, but he's one of my best friends (and is otherwise a fun person to be around).

However, it really *&^*(^ annoys me when he cheats on something as obvious as his Ki powers and I hate babysitting him and auditing everything he does. It's distracting.

So I'm asking if anyone else has had this problem and resolved it in a good way? Any advice is appreciated. We started RPGing about 2 years ago after a 10 year hiatus, and this is really bothering me. I hate cheating!