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MechaMaya wrote:
I hope you don't mind, but I saw your spreadsheet reputation tracker and I sorta expanded on it.

Looking good!

I don't have an adventure path subscription, so I won't have access to the PDF until Wednesday sometime. I also didn't really have plans to add any XP-related tracking. It seems like your sheet is the better option for tracking everything, so feel free to continue updating it as you see fit. I'm sure the folks following the thread will appreciate it!


Sen H.H.S. wrote:
Since it's been asked for a few times, I'll clarify the language roots and inspiration of the names.

This is excellent! Thank you so much! I am definitely nowhere near an expert on these names, but I'd like things to be as authentic as possible. This certainly helps me frame things appropriately.

For anyone using my reputation sheet, I'll add these notes as categories in the future, just for the sake of completeness. I'm starting my campaign today, so the changes may appear sooner than later if I need to update anything once the game starts.

As for the salon:
There hasn't been much mention of the style of the salon, aside from the leshies in the area decided to start a tea farm and serve tea there. I think having them show up for a pruning, like a hair salon, and then use the pruned leaves for tea is actually kind of a cute idea! If that was included in the book or player's guide, maybe I missed it.


Champ Kindly wrote:
This is amazing, will be a huge help to keep this campaign organised (not one of my strengths). Thank you!

No problem at all! I'll be starting my campaign on November 12 and I imagine it'll end up with some changes. If I make any, I can post about it here. As each book is released, I will likely add them to the sheet immediately, even if my party hasn't made it that far yet. I like to know what's coming up and sometimes these later adventure path books explain things which are useful in the earlier sections. Hopefully that will make it more usable for everyone.


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If you think keeping track of things will be daunting, I threw an Introduction onto the front of the the reputation sheet I made and you can find it here.

It's obviously not spoiler free and it doesn't look pretty, but I only really cared that it fit my use case. I tried to keep it as IP-free as I could (relatively vague on some of the reputation triggers, so you'd still have to read the adventure to know what's going on), but if anyone thinks it's not vague enough I can alter it as needed.

You'll have to do File > Make a Copy and get a copy of the sheet to be able to edit it. It comes with some simple scripts as well. You can read those ahead of time if you want.

Hopefully that helps sort through some of the fog of the reputation/attitude system in the adventure path!


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I've been digging through the Season of Ghosts guide and first book and been attempting to set up an automated Google sheet for myself so I can track attitudes and reputation of the citizens of Willowshore as well as the factions. I was kind of amazed Foundry didn't have any good options for this already.

I started out with a simple list, but it wasn't a great way to track the actual events, so I've instead moved on to a second sheet which lists every single reputation gain or loss in the first book with location, encounter, triggers for the loss/gain, etc.

I think most of the direct story-driven gains (like rescuing people, etc.) are properly organized, but I'm running into just a little hiccup with the attitude-based reputation gains in the Location Support section of the first book at the bottom right of page 71.

The Location Support section says that as long as the party's reputation is below Admired with a faction, they can gain 1 point of reputation when a faction-associated site's NPC reaches the Helpful attitude for the first time.

There are some sites which have a faction trait, but do not have an NPC associated with them, specifically Silvermist Lodges and Jadeite Essentials. Technically Rebel's Leatherworks also doesn't have a site NPC, but they're unaffiliated.

Any ideas on how to handle those sites? I've considered a few different options that make sense, but thought I'd look for other opinions.

Silvermist Lodges could have Sumika as a representative, although it seems as though the book doesn't expect her to always be present based on quest information, specifically in "Consulting Silvermist" on page 50. I don't think we see very many (any?) NPCs related to the site.

In the Industrial District explanation on page 75, it suggests that Kawaka is a local guild leader, but the player's guide says specifically that he only operates the Cloud Paper House; I had a theory that maybe he was meant to also run the other two sites, but I think that's incorrect.

Are there any recommendations regarding how to handle those situations? I think Silvermist is a fairly simple fix, but I want to make sure about Jadeite Essentials because the solution has the possibility of removing a point or two from the reputation system. I'm not sure how tightly the numbers are calculated or how they'll be used in future books. If a few errant points could affect things later, I'd like to catch it now.

The second problem I've had, although somewhat minor, has been a few inconsistencies in naming conventions for characters, specifically how they relate to First/Last name orders. I've read some posts on the product threads with some tips for how to figure out which characters' names are in which order based on the convention of the culture being represented (and context from the NPC/site descriptions), but switching between those cultural conventions and English cultural conventions in a few places has made things a little difficult.

There are also a few spots where some of the tricks for figuring out the name order isn't straightforward, because it appears that sometimes the Japanese-styled names are First/Last, but others they're Last/First. In the Locations section, Nadoya Sanmi is First/Last, while most of the other Japanese-styled names are Last/First. At least, I assume this is true because the book refers to the Sanmi family on several occasions. This makes the case of Kazuma Oono, the site NPC for The Seven-Colored Songbird theatre on page 76, strange because his name only appears in two places, where it is his full name each time. Internet research suggests both Kazuma and Oono can be a last name, so I was just hoping to get confirmation one way or another.

The above consistency with Chinese-styled (I think) names falls into the same trap, I believe, with most of the names being Last/First, but occasionally it switching, such as in the case of De-Ge Hua, also from the Locations list on page 76. He is First/Last where most others are Last/First. Luckily, based on information from the other threads, a lot of these styles of first name have dashes inside them, which makes them easy to differentiate. Zheng Peng was the only one I had to check on. I think some of these are also Korean, but I know enough to know I don't know enough in this situation.

There are a few that I assume are from other cultures, like Rajul and Luda. I stuck those in the First/Last category, hoping that was correct. I think Kawaka Myna may be a play on words, although I think Kawaka is his first name based on usage, so I put it in the First/Last section. Feel free to correct me. It could be that they also sometimes refer to people by last name in text, in which case I'm doomed.

I've tried to compile a list of the character names, hoping anyone else who is confused by the conventions might find it useful. I'm also hoping these are correct. This is my first post on the Paizo forums, but I assume I can edit this later if necessary.

Last Name, First Name:
Heh Shan-Bao
"Granny" Hu Ban-niang
"Old" Matsuki Shou
Ha Hai-er
Yong Wu-Xiu
Kum Soon-chong
Kum Meng-sung
You So-Jin
Choe Chung-hu
Ouh Ba-Ming
Zheng Peng
Oono Kazuma
Sanmi Nadoya
Hua De-Ge
Luo Xi Yang
Yun Mong-Un
Huo Tian-Zhe
Igawa Jubei
Kim Gu-won

First Name, Last Name:
Kawaka Myna
Elizeth Candora
Damihansig Mababangloob
Rajul Samudra
Luda Bama

Unique:
Zataku
Mountain Summit Grass

I expect that more names will appear in the upcoming Season of Ghosts books, so I (or someone) could keep updating this list, if people find it useful.

I think it would also be really interesting to look at the roots/meanings of some of the names which are directly from a real-world language. I assume writers like to pick descriptive names. In looking up some of the names I've found a few that could be references, but I'm not sure. For example, Mo Douqiu looks a lot like Duo Qiu, a type of Chinese clay teapot, and you find him in a tea house. Even if it wasn't intended, I still think those are interesting points to track down.

Oh, also, is the Leshy site a Salon or a Saloon? The player's guide says both, but the first book says Salon only, so I assume it's referring to a Tea Salon in the context of a conversational salon. If so, I learned a new thing today.