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So the group I dm Kingmaker for has just reached the second chapter and thus have begun playing around with the kingdom building rules. Using the kingdom sheet provided in the players guide seemed slow and cumbersome, as the person keeping track of kingdom scores needed to constantly erase and re-figure the new kingdom values as they prgressed through each phase. Long story short, it was impacting our game time in a bad way.
So when we met up this week to play, I brought my laptop with me with a convenient kingdom tracking program that I found on this very message board, excel based, and the second I brought it out, my group exploded in anger!
"I deal with spread sheets all day, I'm not dealing with them here!"

"You are missing the whole point of DnD! Its a pen and paper game!"

"Well, we might as well go diceless now! You can do it all on the precious computer"

And so on and so forth. I was taken aback by the level of hostility bringing a laptop to the game table had brought on. After much explaining I finally calmed them down, let one of the players use the kingdom tracking program (which after they did admit was easier and saved a boat load of time) and things went more smoothly but.....jeez, I could almost see their eyes start glowing red at the beginning. Anyone have a similar experience?

My players have yet to reach the second book of the campaign, but seem excited about the prospect of kingdom building. I was wondering if it would be feasible for each PC to start building their own city when they get to the kingdom building part, rather than just focus on one big city when they get their initial BPs. Has anyone had a group who has tried this? Or should I advise them to wait until their kingdom has grown a bit before starting Wizardville, Fighterton, etc?

I wanted to make a calendar to go along with my upcoming Kingmaker campaign, but I cannot find the names of the months in the core rulebook. I assume they are detailed in the Campaign setting book, which I dont have. Can anyone help me out with the names of the months, what real months they are equivalent to, and how many days in each? Also, what year is the campaign supposed to start in?

Looking through page 7 of the pathfinders players guide, I noticed that some of the deities of golarion have domains that arent listed in the PHB, such as artifice, charm, liberation nobility, rune etc. Where would one find information on those domains' granted powers and spells?

My players are just about to throw down with the Lord of the Demonskar and I'm concerned that it might not go well for them. They are obviously not just gonna hand over the paladin, which is what the demon wants, and they dont ever think about retreating until over half the party has been wiped out. Anybody got any helpful hints on how to run this fight? Or how about some entertaining stories about how this fight played out for them?

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Three of my players wish to start two new organizations in Cauldron. The 4th level rogue wants to start a thieves guild and eventually take on The Last Laugh for control of Cauldrons underworld activities. He plans on taking leadership at 6th level. I also have a paladin and a cleric of heironeous (both 4th level) who really want to start a temple to their god. The cleric also plans on taking leadership at 6th level to help accomplish this. My question is does anyone out there know how much it should cost these players to start up their respective organizations? They both need to find suitable buildings to accomadate their needs. Has anyone had their players start up their own guilds/temples in their SC campaign?

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