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Dragonborn3 wrote:

I heard the Brachiation Kineticist talent got changed.

The Occult Origins text is

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You can gain a climb speed equal to your base speed, which you can also use to swing from tree to tree in heavily forested or jungle areas, or from wooden supports.

The Ultimate Wilderness text is:

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You can gain a climb speed equal to your base speed when moving through forested terrain.

So I guess the difference is that you no longer have a climb speed if there's no trees around (e.g. you can't climb up buildings). For my money, Brachiation wasn't an especially strong choice for a 3rd level utility for a phytokineticist before the book came out, I'd take Kinetic Restoration or warp wood or greater elemental whispers (if the GM okays it) instead.

Well good thing I don't own Ultimate Wilderness or I'd have to use the new Brachiation.

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Mars Roma wrote:

Considering this is a SLA and in all other ways, a spell-like ability functions just like a spell.

This is a misrepresentation of the issue though.

Although in many ways, spell-like abilities work like spells, as you say...

That is not the same as an ability that interacts with a spell also working with a spell-like ability.

All metamagic feats are perfect examples of this.

So whether an ability for delivering a touch spell would work for delivering a touch spell-like ability, is in no means a given.

A couple things, Metamagic feats are a a clear exception to this, I agree with you there but they are by no means a good example as to why this doesn’t work. Kinetic Healer and Elemental Whispers are both class features of the same class. There is no reason to doubt their intended interaction.

On top of that, SLA’s are in fact affected by the Spell Focus Feat should the SLA be a Spell. So bringing up feats holds no bearing into this conversation. Given, as I mentioned above, we are talking about two class features that belong to the same class and belong in the same category even. Utility Wild Talents. And feats seemingly function both ways concerning SLA’s. In regards to whether they do or do not interact with SLA’s.
So you are infact presenting a misrepresentation of the issue by bringing up the interaction of feats and SLA’s. It should not be brought up again and as it stands Kinetic Healer still interacts with Deliver Touch Spells through Familiar from Elemental Whispers and from other sources. To include Multiclassing and Improved Familiar Bond familiars.
As there is nothing to suggest that they do not function otherwise.

I think I got greedy asking for more concerning Familiar taking the Burn. Now all I want to know is if the Familiar can deliver Kinetic Healer at all. So far it sounds reasonable according to the rules as written that this is how it works in Society play. No argument, that’s how it works, end of story. That’s what I’m telling everyone that I play with at every pathfinder society event from now on and will go out of my way to bring it up even if there is no Kineticists at the table.

If you use Kinetic healer can you use your familiar to Deliver the Touch required to Heal someone?
If you can, could you also have your Familiar take the Burn from the Kinetic Healer instead of you?

It be nice to have for any Overwhelming Soul Archetype users Given they can only heal themselves with it if they use their Buffer. I'll ask my GM personally if he's ok with it, but i wanted to see where this discussion will go, since i find it interesting.

NOTE: for simplicity sakes assume Familiar was gained from Greater Elemental Whispers.