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The Raven Black wrote:

I think the Witch dedication gives you a Witch familiar because you can take both the Witch MC AND the Familiar Master archetype.

I wonder what happens if you take Witch MC on a Wizard who already has a familiar. Is there a rule somewhere that you can only have a single familiar?

There is a rule in familiar section that you can have only one familiar.

Familiars have the minion trait (page 634), so during an encounter, they gain 2 actions in a round if you spend an action to command them. If your familiar dies, you can spend a week of downtime to replace it at no cost. You can have only one familiar at a time.
So getting a witches familiar is quite a good option for a wizard, that preferred to be true wizard and get spell substitution class feature.

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About being an OP I think that its NOT OP . Because all updates from witch's familiar coming with lever are only "familiar abilities" - which means they are not "Master abilities". I.e. you cannot choose more then 2 master abilities if you will not use enhanced familiar feat from witch.
https://2e.aonprd.com/Familiars.aspx

The only way you can make this familiar superb is to make an Alchemist/Witch character, it will not by OP in fights, but it will be super fun in utility. Also, Wizard/Alchemist/Witch build will be quite good at utility (though will be so-so as a wizard. going full Halcyon is much stronger IMHO).

Lets just be honest: Familiar master - is a weak archetype, as are most of the archetypes.
The lonely reason of using it is to have familiar cast spells from its position, usually negating enemy cover.

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I look in aonprd and get confused.
In witch Multiclass dedication, it is noted that you get a witch's familiar.and that: "Your familiar has one less familiar ability than normal." (its not saying that you get a familiar with 1 ability though)
Witches' familiars get extra abilities: "Your patron has sent you a familiar, a mystical creature that teaches you and facilitates your spells. This familiar follows the rules here, though as it's a direct conduit between you and your patron, !!!!it's more powerful than other familiars!!!!. Your familiar gains an extra familiar ability, and gains another extra ability at 6th, 12th, and 18th levels." (as I understand this ones are fixed to familiar not master abilities)
Does wording mean, that witches dedication gives 1 cantrip, (2 in spell book)1 familiar which improves as you level. (2 at 1, 3 at 6lvl, 4 at 12th)?
So compared to other casters you get 1 less cantrip at the start, 1 less skill, spell book vs whole spell list (druid/cleric), no language (druidic) and trade that with a familiar who is leveling up with you?

So, you can read it as familiar with 1 ability, or familiar with 2+ abilities (1+ of which is are fixed as non master abilities).
1 ability is making it lackluster compared to wisdom casters: small prepared spell list which you should pay for, less cantrips and a familiar which is able to do very little, not a good scout, not even okay at anything until you feed it with feats.

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I look in aonprd and get confused.
In witch Multiclass dedication, it is noted that you get a witch's familiar.and that: "Your familiar has one less familiar ability than normal." (its not saying that you get a familiar with 1 ability though)
Witches' familiars get extra abilities: "Your patron has sent you a familiar, a mystical creature that teaches you and facilitates your spells. This familiar follows the rules here, though as it's a direct conduit between you and your patron, !!!!it's more powerful than other familiars!!!!. Your familiar gains an extra familiar ability, and gains another extra ability at 6th, 12th, and 18th levels." (as I understand this ones are fixed to familiar not master abilities)
Does wording mean, that witches dedication gives 1 cantrip, (2 in spell book)1 familiar which improves as you level. (2 at 1, 3 at 6lvl, 4 at 12th)?
So compared to other casters you get 1 less cantrip at the start, 1 less skill, spell book vs whole spell list (druid/cleric), no language (druidic) and trade that with a familiar who is leveling up with you?

So, you can read it as familiar with 1 ability, or familiar with 2+ abilities (1+ of which is are fixed as non master abilities).
1 ability is making it lackluster compared to wisdom casters: small prepared spell list which you should pay for, less cantrips and a familiar which is able to do very little, not a good scout, not even okay at anything until you feed it with feats.