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When PF1 introduced a +1 point mechanic every 4 levels I was stunned. Whoa, this is really revolutionary!

It was in D&D 3e. Paizo didn't invent that and others games already have mechanics to increase character stats before D&D 3e.

The most common rolling method of the 80's, however, was: 4d6, rerolling 1's once, and taking the top 3.

In the 80's most people rolled 3d6 six times and I think some of the players still attributed their results in the same order as they rolled. The first roll was for strength, the second for dexterity, etc. For D&D, at least.

I'm not that good at statistics

Yes. If you want my advice, the average measure of something is not very useful in most of the cases. Build some high-level characters and see if they have 18 in all of their stats. It will be more helpful to apprehend the mechanic of the game than making random empty math.

Grey Star wrote:

Mark the Wise and Powerful wrote:

Also, I think there are two types of players in this market: 3.5e and 5e players.

You have a very reductive conception of the market. The past decade has seen the hobby evolve. Try to take a look at all the games Powered by the Apocalypse edited recently, it will be a good start.

I've only been blogging about Pathfinder and D&D. So, everything I say is in that context. I have on rare occassion played others, like Middle Earth.

I don't really have time for anything else. I'm perfectly happy with the experience I've had with Pathfinder.

If you can admit your experience of the market is thin, can you stop talking about the market like you know everything better than everyone?

For me, and I think many others, it's important that the name Paladin be associated with Lawful-Goodness.

So, I'll try this again. I am aware it's not perfect, but with such fundamentally opposed sides, nothing could be. Here goes, with adjustment for the fact that 4 Corners seems to me the most likely alternative to only LG.

Class in the CRB: Champion
(Basic class intro) Champions are Holy - or Unholy - Warriors who not only dedicate themselves to a deity, but also a Code of extreme Principles. Their resolve and drive comes from both of these, and it is not a path for the faint of heart. These Codes are so essential to their being, that oftentimes Champions are known first and foremost by the Code they follow.
The Paladin devotes himself to upholding goodness, first and foremost, and then the importance of laws, traditions, and honor.
In a similar way, the Vindicator is devoted to all that is good, but then departs greatly from the Paladin, in that she always safeguards the freedom of the individual and cannot abide tyranny, no matter how minor.
A Tyrant, like a Paladin, is a defender of law and order, but is a servant to evil instead.
Finally, the Antipaladin is, appropriately, the antithesis of the Paladin. Selfish. Cruel. Always going out of her way to hurt others and spread evil and chaos.

Each a champion. Each in his or her own way.

As for what features they share and which are unique, well, someone more qualified than me can figure that out. :D

Liberator makes a better name than Vindicator for a chaotic good paladin. It carries more a positive meaning than your proposition.

I also think that the CE paladin needs a better name. We can find a specific name for the CE evil variant that doesn't only exist as a direct opposition to the LG variant. CE evil paladin can be more than that.

Sorry for restarting an argument about paladin alignment. I just wanted to make a joke about a strange bicarbonate/vinegar claim made in the discussion.

Now, about the code, I think the player who plays a paladin, need to define what is the conviction that drives his character into being a paladin. If he acts accordingly whit his conviction, he follows his personal code. If not, he is a risk to falling. I think it's more simple than a universal code and that open the road to a more interesting character development.

I have made a groundbreaking discovery. Good bicarbonate and chaotic lemon juice react with each other. The paladin chemical reaction happens with CG character! I want my Nobel prize!

HWalsh, what is the place of the paladin in the world? What have they done that is inherently part of Golarion and need them to be LG? Can you provide the reference?

I'm excited about an old concept of CG goblin paladin I want to play since 3.5. He will be epic with a flaming sword granted by the new rune mechanic.

Deadmanwalking wrote:

HWalsh wrote:

It's in an AP. If you eat something offered to you, without knowing it is Angel meat. You instantly fall.

What AP? This sounds like one of those situations where there are mitigating factors to the situation that often get left out in discussions like this (for example, when one is offered mystery meat by known demons, one is not entirely innocent of the idea that it might be something terrible).

I actually don't know - I believe it is in WotR, but I am not at that part yet as a player and don't want to spoil it for myself. Someone spoiled it in a forum post.

Not a really good argument so.

I tink your GM don't understand the difference between «strike first» and being the first ready to take an action.