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The Golgothan Empire will not tolerate bandits preying upon our citizens. We are evil. We are not bandits.

This I understand; evil PCs are no more required to be bandits than good PCs are required to fight them. I was referring to the particular recurring argument between TEO and UNC, and not all players of both alignments. I have to apologize for being unclear on who I was referring to.

Andius: Over-aggressive but well-intentioned statement about pursuing PvP in a Good-aligned manner.

Bluddwolf: Faux-polite backhanded insult and attempt to make being a guardian of the average merchant seem worse than being a bandit.

TEO Member: Caution Andius to be less abrasive.

3rd Parties: Point out all the flaws in Bluddwolf's facts, and reprimands Andius for instigating with his moral high-horse.

Tada, the PFO forums in a nutshell. And, yeah, I know that's an exaggeration. It just seems a little repetitive the way this appears to circle back and forth.

What if we all just agreed that PvP will happen; that evil-aligned PCs will be bandits, and that good-aligned PCs will happily kill those self-same bandits. That's what it all comes down to. Neither side is better for the game. We need both.

That said, it shouldn't have to be pointed out that playing an evil bandit who robs people is going to make a person/group seem unfriendly no matter how charming, smart, or otherwise talented they may be.

I am Father Time, member of TEO. I was in the kickstarter but mostly stayed out of the forums at first because I didn't want to get hyped about something so far away. But it's getting closer now and I'm enjoying playing around with ideas, learning and sharing predictions with other players.

Frequent lurker, beginning poster.

Come now, Bluddwolf, you're obfuscating perfectly clear points. While I agree with you that the definition of 'Griefing' is a bit too general, the policy statements were perfectly clear.

TEO will join the side of any party they feel is being wronged, they will never make a deal that will prevent them from joining a side they feel is being wronged, and if you have a problem with that then you are free to petition for the justness of your own cause and request a cessation of hostilities.

"Our flaws make us interesting, our virtues merely make us tolerable." -Unknown

N - Nexus: The core, the center, the thing which draws in and around which things revolve. In this case, the rallying point for all that is both benevolent and charitable.