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Thanks guys! I am actually the rogue in my group so I found the example story not only helpful, but very amusing. Pretty accurate too. It seems from what you guys have said that it's just a stylistic choice my DM has made - consciously or otherwise - which blows since it's been impossible to actually SNEAK attack anything, flanking sure. I've been stealthing up to doors and "slowly poking my head through the crack as I open it slightly to check for villains," but it hasn't helped in times past. Even if I get a high perception roll he just tells me about the room I see. I think it's an issue I need to break with my DM, because initiative is never rolled until after the monsters have made actions, and yes I do mean actions, like moving across a room, then drawing a weapon, then attacking. Which I'm pretty sure is more than one can do in a surprise round.


My party (all new to tabletop RPGs) has been exploring a dungeon for a few sessions, and every time we go through a door to a room with some sort of opponent(s) in it, they get the drop on us, making a move and/or attack action as soon as we enter the room. This happens literally every time we enter an occupied room. Is this is in line with the Core Rules or has my DM just decided to never give us a chance for initiative before the monsters get something like a surprise round? The monsters are often moving and attacking upon entering the room.

Thanks for the help!


I'm still new to Pathfinder and DnD in general, so I'm sure this is an easy answer. My party (also all new to tabletop RPGs) has been exploring a dungeon for a few sessions, and every time we go through a door to a room with some sort of opponent(s) in it, they get the drop on us, making a move and/or attack action as soon as we enter the room. This happens literally every time we enter an occupied room. Is this is in line with the Core Rules or has my DM just decided to never give us a chance for initiative before the monsters get something like a surprise round? The monsters are often moving and attacking upon entering the room.