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we only play til level 6, so ..

thanks anyway :-)


hi there!

are these stats inclusive or exclusive the +2 CHA, +2 DEX, -2 ST?


Hi guys . I'm building a halfling rogue right now. I have troubles with the 20pt System...

I have +2 CHA, +2 DEX, -2 ST

At lvl 2 I will take the Finesse Rogue, so I'd like to concentrate on my DEX and not on ST.

I would like to fight with two weapons (again ;-)) and right now I'm thinking about using a halfling-sling shot, because I also can use the sling shot as a bludgeoning weapon.

How would you build your halfling rogue? How would your stats look like?

Thx in advance


Thank you so much guys!!

I kick aaaass :))


oh sorry :-)) thank you !


Hi Leute
Ich, 23, weiblich (klingt wie so ein Single-Profil), suche eine Spielergruppe in Österreich. Super wäre Wien Umgebung.

Pathfinder, DnD, Shadowrun,.. bin für alles offen :D

Freu mich über eine Rückmeldung!
Ps.: nein, ich lasse meine Chars nicht stundenlang auf Schuh-Einkauf gehen oder sich besonders schön schminken, weil "Oh my god this lipstick totally goes to my nails!!!", FYI ;)


oh danke :D !!!


meh.

asy HELPFUL suggestions?


Hi Leute,

suche eine Gruppe in Österreich, Wien Umgebung wäre fein.
Ist da jemand? :-)


Oooopsss!!!
Thank you and sorry :-)


..... Combos during a battle, do you know any?
I remember my ex-Char, a witch.

1. Round Evil Eye
2. Round Cackle
3. Round Misfortune
4. Round Cackle
5. Black Tantacles
6. Summon swarm or Ice Strom

Are there such for (TWO WEAPON) Fighters?? Something nice and different yet effective?

Thanks in advance!


Hi Leute, bin auf der Suche nach anderen Gruppen, die "Platz" haben. Jemand in Österreich, Nähe Wien?

Hi guys I', lookin for an other group to play with. Any in Austria, near Vienna?


female Human Fighter/4

oh how nice :D
we too play in the IK since a couple of months!


Hawktitan wrote:

Just as an FYI dual wielding scimitars is pretty iconic of a certain popular fantasy series (hey, I love Drizzt) but depending on how much your group knows/likes/hates RA Salvatore you might get a couple groans when you mention that you want to dual wield scimitars. If you don't care then that's fine and it's prefectly ok to use them.

Still I'd take another look at a sword+shield bashing TWF to make sure that isn't something you'd be interested in.

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yess.. thank you.. i've heard the story yesterday. not sure if the scimitars are a good idea :-/


Atarlost wrote:
Skerek wrote:

TWFing should work will with either a ranger or a fighter (two weapon fighter archetype)

If you go ranger you can ignore the dex pre-reqs for the TWFing feats, you get a pet and some spells, also favored enemies and terrains.

This is not really true. Favored enemy isn't big enough to make TWF worth it. You'll do better archetyping away your bonus feats or taking a secondary style like archery and taking a two handed weapon unless you get two weapon rend, and you don't have enough bonus feats to ignore prerequisites on everything and get stuff in a timely fashion.

You can get two weapon rend a level early, but you're left paying the full 19 dex prerequisite for greater two weapon fighting if you do that so you're not really saving dex. Or you can use the bonus feat on greater two weapon fighting and fork out the 17 dex for two weapon rend, which saves you a grand total of 2 dex, but then you can't skip double slice, which means you need 15 dex early so your saving on a belt not on point buy.

And you're in medium armor. Unless you're doing a shield bash build you shouldn't want to take advantage of your ability to ignore dex prerequisites. You really want to be in light armor for mobility so you can be in position to start full attacking ASAP so you're looking at trying to fill out a mithril breastplate. That's going to take 20 dex anyways.

Errr.. why is DEX actually so important?

AND: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/two-weapon-fighting-combat---fin al

Is there any possibility to make the penalties drop to 0?


Silent Saturn wrote:


-Soviet Anthem jokes.

i like :D


das ist nicht euer ernst, dass ich mich jetzt so im englisch bemühe und dann redets eh alle deutsch. ich halts nicht aus :-)

Waldläufer gibts nicht in Iron Kingdoms, also das vergesse ich ma wieder.

Und genau - kein Schild. So schützend es auch sein mag.. es ist einfach NICHT cool D:


Azaelas Fayth wrote:

I have a Two-Weapon Warrior that uses Twin Bastard Swords. He also has the Critical Feats and Weapon Focus line of Feats.

He currently DPRs for more damage than our Barbarian. Even before criticals.

That said if you want I have the Class Chart done. or nearly done.

I would love to!

Thank you so much!


Umbral Reaver wrote:
Cold Napalm wrote:
Nemesis Az wrote:


.. Are twin scimitars not good?
1d6 Damage is OK, isnt it? For a light weapon?

Scimitars are not light weapons...so twin scimitars are gonna suck up -4/-4. I believe two weapon archetype can reduce this somewhat...but that means -2/-2 vs. no penalty...and that is at level 15. You get a -1 reduction at 11. You can make it work if you REALLY want to and if you have access to the right magical items...

In anycase, you will STILL want UMD...maxed, with feats to boost it. At higher levels, scrolls of giantform 1 or 2 will let you do bad bad things with your fighter. This of course assume iron kingdom has normal access to magical items...like scrolls. Completely unfamiliar with the setting.

Scrolls do exist. Magic items cost 50% extra and the creator risks losing hit points permanently (and with high cost items or crafting multiple items could even die). These lost hit points can never be recovered, perhaps save for wish, which is only castable at one well-guarded place in the whole world.

Magic items that run on what are basically magic batteries do exist but have limited charges and require technological skill to build and recharge.

YEa.. thanks :-) Well, OUR DM looks like he doesnt want any magic items in this game. He wants to keep it "super steam punky". At the beginning he told us: magic items and scrolls are very rare. People who can use scrolls and stuff to create magic items are very rare. So he kinda made his point clear >.<


Azaelas Fayth wrote:
Xexyz wrote:
Wasum wrote:
Umm, yea, because bastard swords are better than scimtars? Or because you use better feats than anyone else here?
Bastard swords can work very well if your offhand is a Sun Blade, since it can count as a short sword a.k.a a light weapon. Plus the fact that dual-wielding bastard swords gets you way more cool points than dual-wielding scimitars.
EWP(Bastard Sword) with the Two-Weapon Warrior Archetype can do it cheaper.

OMG!!!! http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/image-files/exotath-1.jpg

I like!!!

So why exactly are these better than scimtars? Besides the crit.-thing? (BTW.. I never EVER landed a crit till now -.- my dices HATE me!)


Hi there guys!

Check this out: http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?407448-4E-Iron-Kingdoms-(Races)

We are NOT allowed to play an Elf or a Dwarf, just so you know :-)
Does this help building?


Atarlost wrote:
You can not TWF without magic items. Talk to your GM about reducing the dex prerequisites to sane values if you can not 100% count on being able to buy stat boosting belts.

Why cant I? .. there is the possibility to buy or craft +[whatever] actually.. Does it help?

They are not magical though, but they have kinda "battery" (Iron Kingdoms..) and that makes weapons or shields mightier. But NOT magical.


Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Hello & Welcome, Ffion_Tarokka!

Oh dear lord Twin Scimitars...

I am guessing most magic items will have to be crafted to be obtained.

If you can get Double Slice you can increase Damage a bit.

If you want I can have a Level Chart for the Two-Weapon Warrior Archetype for you to use as it is one of the best for this type of build. Or I can do the Mobile Fighter Archetype which is just as good.

Hi :-)

.. Are twin scimitars not good?
1d6 Damage is OK, isnt it? For a light weapon?


Cold Napalm wrote:
Are you okay with doing TWF with a shield? Shield slam makes shield bashing a whole lot of fun and fighters get enough feats where doing this isn't exceedingly painful. UMD and scrolls/wands of true strike for even more shield slamming fun (shield slam using you attack as the CMB so true strikes +20 to hit means +20 your CMB to bulrush somebody).

Well actually I was thinking of 2 SCIMITARs..

And this was my first thought (the 25 pts.)

ST: 17
DEX: 16
CON: 14
INT: -2
WIS: 14
CHA: -2

Looks a lot different than your suggestions.. but as already mentioned: I suck at builds :D


Thanael wrote:

Do you have any Iron Kingdom specific class conversions or equipment available? IK has firearms and even magitech to a degree. .

Also no offense but that backstory tells me almost nothing about your character. She could be a Mage or a cleric or anything. How/where do you figure she picked up the skills to be a fighter? What do you want her to be able to do?

Maybe a gunmage(it's an Iron Kingdom class)/pistolero/fighter TWF build would be cool.
IK is a great setting and picking up a few setting specific things is always nice.

P.s. Please also answer Xexyz' questions above....

Hi. Its our first time in the IK. Things like "fire arms" and "magitech" will be to much for me i fear.

Well, she doesnt like magic. Nether "normal" spells nor divine. This is why she cant be a cleric or a mage. She is no rogue because her parents (I forgot to mention) were aristocratic, and she never was in need to steal or anything.

She asks a friend of her stepmother to teach her, because Vladik is a great/ was a great war hero and fighter. She wants to see her foe die. Or better: she wants her foe to see her kill it. This is why she is loud and super violent while a fight.

Gunmage will be an option, an other time :-)


Xexyz wrote:

Ffion,

Two questions:

1. Do you know how long the campaign is going to be? What level do you think you'll get your fighter to?

2. How much ability do you have to determine what magic items you end up with? If a specific item was mentioned for the build, would you be able to get it?

1. Err.. our DM told us will we be something between 18 and 22 in the end.

2. No chance.. no magic items. In the Iron Kingdoms magic items are super rare, so nope. No chance, at least I have loooooooots and looooooots of money to buy it somewhere -.-


And would you please be a bit more specific? Pls :-)

Like.. "I suggest this feats .... at level..." or "Take this weapons... because..." or "25 pt. system. That means: ST:... DEX:..."

I really suck at building an "uber"char. MEH


Guys, pleeease, I'm a newbie.

So I guess Archetypes are a bit to much for me.. or double-class.


Malag, i want her to be pretty kick-ass. she doenst have to be VERY graceful.

Back-story:

She was adopted when she was a baby. Her mother died while she gave birth to her. Her biological mother's best friend, Popea, adopted her and raised her like her own child. Her "stepmothers" husband, Nero, was a loving father and a great husband. BUT he changed. He was a mage and a professor at the great sorcerers-academy. He started to study "dark arts" (necromancy).

Her mother cared alot about him and asked him a multiple times to stop playing with dark magic. He got mad and put a spell on her. Silence and deafness. So she could not speak and hear anymore, forever. He was very sorry first, but he went on with his sorcery.

My char, Selene, once hid in his working room (for fun, she was just a child). Her father started to try some new spells and too summoned a demon. Popea ran into his room, because she knew Selene was hiding there. Nero lost controll over the summoned monster and the other magic spells. He incinerated Popea with his spell and the moment he realised what he has done, the demon consumed him.

After that she was raised by Nana, her nanny. She never forgot what happened that night. When Selene was old enough, she traveled to Vladik, an old school friend of her decent stepmother. She went there to marry his son in advance to be trained by Vladik in sword fight.

Here you are :-)
Plsssss help! I want her to be brutal and strong in fights but very understanding and kind with her companions.

And oh, did I mentioned that she hates sorcery and necromancy?


Threeshades, the german translation of "magic missiles" sounds like it has something to do with fire.. well.. as you see - i AM a newbie :D

I already used the guide to build my gobber-rogue. And yes, TWF FTW!

Now I'd need some professional help of all of you guys to build a unique yet super-awesome char :)

I appreciate any help!

So.. 25pt buy system. What do you suggest?


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Hi there guys. I’m new here, I hope it’s the right topic and I really hope you can help.
So, it’s my 5th character. I’ve played a dwarfy fighter(awesome!!!), an elfish ranger (I hated it…), an elfish cleric (awesome, but sooo many spells and stuff..) and a gobberish (from Iron Kingdoms) rogue (like her a lot also!).

Well.. still, I’m a newbie. I’m pretty good at role-playing. BUT I suck a tactics, Meta gaming and stuff. I’m the only girl in our group.. The guys all are helpful, but I see at the way they look at me, that they have second thoughts about me as a role-player. Or better: Meta-gamer. I really don’t like spoiling myself and read everything about every monster and every spell, or giving myself the best stats, just to be “better than the rest of them” (unfortunately this is what the guys do..).

I want to keep my char “real” and “natural” and every time we have an encounter I’d like to be like “AWESOME!!!! Fire totally helps against trolls!!! Wooooahhhhhh!” and not like “Oh yea. Fire. I already knew that. So.. magic missiles PEW PEW PEW!!!!”
So I really hope you can help with my build.

She’s a level 4 Two Weapon Fighter, with a shweeet backstory. And I just love her already!! Human, 25pt. buy system. We play in the Iron Kingdoms BUT with Pathfinder rules.

And this is how our party looks like: Fighter, cleric, paladin, mage.
Anything else you need to know? Pleeease help! This time I need a super-awesome, incredibly arse-kicking char! BAMM! Thanks in advance :-)