So, I am debating on pivoting to PF2E, after the whole OGL debacle. I have a player with some familiarity with PF2E who is talking about how worthless casters are except as buffers and utility.
Now, I understand that there is a discussion on how effective casters are, but my impression was that while casters are weak on single target damage, that they provide in enough other areas as to have their value.
However, he sent this message to me, and it made me question just how bleak the situation may be:
"Since every single time you will be fighting monsters with higher saving DC's. Levels are important since you get to add that into your saving throws and attacks. So anything the party fights will have a higher level.
The issue with Pathfinder is that, AoE effects, in PF2e you can take dodge entirely both damage and effects.
Unless 5e where even if they succeed they take half damage, PF2e has the mechanic that you can succeed and take zero damage.
So let's say, you are a spellcaster and you have a DC of 19 at level 4, the CR calculator would suggest you have to fight something at level 6.
Their DC saves are from +12 to +16. To beat your DC's. They need to roll 7 from their lowest and 3 for their highest.
The max DC you get as a caster is a 50, the max monsters saving throw they can get is a 47."
So, is he right? Just how bad is the situation for casters?
