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These "convince me" threads are a colossal waste of time. If you don't want to play it, find something that appeals to you.

Meanwhile, I'll keep playing Pathfinder and effortlessly pumping out new PCs in five minutes with Hero Lab. That's how we roll.

I'm not sure what your point is, I guess. I'm not asking you to convince me, I'm just asking why you all like it, and trying to understand why you like what you like. Convince me or don't, I'm just trying to understand. That said, I feel like you weren't very polite.

I'm not really at a point where I want to throw it at any players, and I'm not about to carve out another several-hour chunk of time to play in another game (I don't know where I would be able to). But in an effort to give Pathfinder a shot, I'm going to try to find a little time to throw at running a solitaire game with 4 PCs against Carrion Crown, and see how that goes. If it sucks then it sucks.

Normally you wouldn't use dice when making a character in Pathfinder. You're not dependent on luck. You use point-buy to make the exact character you want.

However, it's generally not until you've played the game for a while that you can get a feel for it. Without that, it's hard to get excited about making a PC who can trip approaching enemies, but also cast spells, or whatever.

I just meant the act of creating a character. Of course, I don't have Hero Lab, and I'm not about to shell out for it (frankly, I don't have the space in my budget currently, regardless of how much I play Pathfinder in the future), but using PCGen it's taken me a while to make a Druid and a Gunslinger. Barbarian's up next, and then I'll round the team out with some fourth character. So while, yeah, I'm not literally rolling dice, I just meant it in the sense of "rolling up" a character. Idiomatically.

So some background info: I've been running games for five years or so, off and on. I've played/run Savage Worlds, Apocalypse World, Fate, d100 games, OSR games, and 5e. In no particular order.

Now, you'll notice two big omissions there that seem to define the internet discourse surrounding Pathfinder: Pathfinder itself, and the game people came to Pathfinder in protest of, 4th Edition.

As a result, all I've got is second hand info, almost all of it hard to trust, and a good deal of it negative.

So I wanted to understand from the horse's mouth, so to speak: What is it that makes you love Pathfinder?

Why play a game where making a character involves an hour or more of pouring over options? To me, with no experience first hand, and negative second hand reports, it sounds tedious. But I'm a firm believer in a world where, if someone thinks it's fun then it's usually because it is. So very probably, I'm the one who's wrong here.

Thank you for your time and consideration.