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You assess a foe's weaknesses in combat and use them to formulate a plan of attack. Choose a creature you can see. You can Devise a Stratagem as a free action if you're aware that creature could help answer the question at the heart of one of your active investigations. Roll a d20, then decide on an attack stratagem or skill stratagem.

"Attack Stratagem: If you Strike the chosen creature before the start of your next turn, your Strike gains the fortune trait and you must use the result of the d20 roll for your Strike's attack roll instead of rolling. You make this substitution only for the first Strike you make against the creature this round, not any subsequent ones. When you make this substitution, you can add your Intelligence modifier to your attack roll instead of your Strength or Dexterity modifier. If you Strike with a melee weapon, melee unarmed attack, or thrown weapon, it must have the agile or finesse trait to benefit from the substitution."

If my Investigator (or a PC with an Investigator Archetype and Devise a Stratagem) were to get an out of turn Reaction that grants me a Strike, it seems like I would have to use the result of the d20 roll gained from Devise a Stratagem on the out of turn Reaction.

But what happens if I use a melee weapon without the finesse or agile traits? Would I still be required to use the substituted d20 roll, even if I cannot benefit from the substitution?


Title says it all. Please don't read unless you've beaten the PL+5 fight in here.

Seriously don't:

My party of five players (myself included) just beat The Warden. Granted, it was not a vanilla fight. We had Free Archetype, Gradual Ability Boost and Ancestral Paragon on our side. We also had Apex items. Still, it was quite challenging.

The Warden was just nearly impossible to hit, even with the melee Strikers prebuffed with Heroism before we confronted him. He also had our Strikers Quandried, Grabbed and Restrained. It was only though some clever spell usage and 3 nat 20s in a row that we managed to do it.

Going in the GM did warn us that this was an impossible fight so I didn't expect to win. At the end of the day though in our Golarion The Warden is dead because a Taldan Guardian hit him really hard with a spade. I think that's an achievement worth recording down for posterity here.

Ask me anything about the fight and our party I guess and I'll talk about as much as I can without naming names. I'm doing my best to avoid Book 3 spoilers outside of this, so please don't spoil the rest of Book 3 in this thread.