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Hey GM Lithrac,

I wanted to say that, regretfully, I will have to decline, since I am over-committed as is (especially trying to keep up with some GMing of my own).

But, I also wanted to say that I really appreciated your GMing and commitment to GMing, especially in keeping up a good pace. It can be tough to commit to a AP since many APs end up dying, but - if I could - I would feel very confident about joining your game.

Thanks!

Matt/Knorrin/FurtiveZoog

BTW, Knorrin is now 4th level (I had a GM credit before the start), if that makes a difference to which scenario gets played at what level.

As a small point, I just assumed the summoner had summoned one creature per turn since we spent four rounds buffing and there were four of them. It turns out it was doing a lot more.

As a small complication, even my Command spells would have been useless since it doesn't speak Common, and possibly because it is a plant, as well.

It seems that our mistakes or its choices just made the combat last a little shorter or longer, but that, with its damage potential, to hit bonuses, invisibility, and saves, it was a forgone conclusion that we were going to be toast. The pauses did, at least, allow us to get to the door and spike it.

I would be really interested in seeing what kind of party has success with it. Since AC and HP don't go up that dramatically, what kind of party would it take to survive? (I really don't know - I don't have the experience with higher levels.)

Hey, GM Lithrac,

Just wanted to say thanks again for running these modules and best of luck, yourself, on the new addition to the family!

~~ Matt

Knorrin is selling:
Bodybalm, 2 for 25
Weapon Blanch (Ghost Salt), 100
Scroll (Resist Energy), 75
Antitoxin, 25
Oil of Magic Weapon, 25
Cloak of Resistance, 500
Scroll (Remove Paralysis), 75
Scroll (Purify Food and Drink), 6.25
Scroll (Obscuring Mist), 12.5
Scroll (Know the Enemy), 2 for 25

That is 843.75. Minus Chasik's Raise Dead and plus my cash leaves me with 17.57 gp. I'll repurchase a cold iron spear for 4.

I've GMed Frostfur Captives on here, but I haven't played it, and a group I am playing in will eventually do the Blakros Matrimony, but I haven't done any of the others Choamski mentioned.

One nice part about Thornkeep was that we knew that we all had not played or GMed it already.

Chasik - From my point of view, I was looking at it as a group commitment to try to raise a member that has fallen, if possible. I think that is how groups should work, and it would be out-of-character for Knorrin and myself to not try to do so. :)

GM - Sounds good. Knorrin has no Day Job.

I have 7 PFS characters and 1 PF 'alias', but none are above level 3. I feel pretty invested in them all (a little too much, even), but perhaps because the only way I play is online and it can take so long to get anywhere this way. The first group that I started in only just finished their 5th scenario.

If the DM will allow me, I will spend my prestige to pay for Chasik's restorations as well. I currently have 8 (10 including this adventure). The guide says: "As a general rule, Prestige Points are designed to be spent by characters on themselves." - so this would be GM fiat.

Interesting. I had thought that it was a hard and fast rule, but that seems to leave it more open. If possible, we could potentially pool our resources for more raise dead/restoration spells. I also have 8 pp I could contribute, before this scenario is taken into account, or 10 after.

I'd be sorry to see Choamski go, btw.

I'll go with the group's decision on xp/fame/PP. Choamski makes a good point, though some might need the PP for body recovery and restoration.

As I just mentioned on the Gameplay thread, I have 1900 gold that I can contribute to a raise dead, leaving me with some mundane items and repurchased lesser equipment (about 500 gp value total). It seems if everyone could come up with the same, we would have almost but not quite enough for two raise dead spells. :-\

Unless one person has only one such character and another has a bunch of 3+ levels, we could just randomly decide on who should be raised.

Knorrin, too, stumbles around like a man in a fog, always looking around and over his shoulder. For some time, an insect buzzing by his ear will cause him to draw his scimitar and slash around like a madman, trying to ward off the terrible rending death that is sure to follow.

His first order of business is to make it to the Goldenfire Order, hoping that perhaps together they will have the necessary strength - if joined, too, by the town's leaders, guards, and militias. He had expected to find demons in his struggles, but this was somehow so much worse for it not to have been a demon.

As soon as he can can make it to the nearest lodge, he sends word to any who will listen about Rellen and Chasik's brave fight and terrible fall, seeking to organize a magical retrieval party of some sort. Perhaps teleporting in and then out with the bodies, with the distraction of another force... He knows that but for a few crude iron spikes that he would be back there, too, perhaps with only a semblance of life and now serving the Black Goat instead of Sarenrae.

He also thus seeks to sell all of his belongings but what he started with (and the wand he was given by his faction, which painful rules prevent him from selling) so as to raise the funds for them to be restored to life.

Sorry we can't help with the PP for raise dead or restoration.

After subtracting items used in the scenario, I have 1900 of value in equipment (resold value), leaving some mundane items to restart with.

Disable Device or Craft (Engineering), both untrained: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (10) + 2 = 12

Under iron spike, it says "This foot-long iron spike is used to keep doors open or closed and to secure ropes for climbing.", so I think it works from either side of the door, essentially. I'd test it out but the wife would probably get mad. :-P

You could try for a body recovery which is 5 PP, though it might be more since we are not in a large city. I do believe that a larger city is supposed to be only a few miles away (possibly its Daggermark, pop. 25-30K), but I'm not sure since I don't have a map in front of me.

I think it might be within the rules for each of us to use the body recovery option and, while we wouldn't have enough to raise everyone, if we then all sell the dead's belongings we might be able to raise one person. (You can contribute to that goal normally, and you can normally sell your goods posthumously for your own raise dead, and so maybe you can sell your goods posthumously for another's raise dead.)

Knorrin hammers a piton into the hinge of the door, jamming it.

"Please, friends, cast your spells and run! Someone has to make it out of here alive to warn the town!" Knorrin yells as he does so, then he moves towards the next set of doors.

Assuming it is only a standard action to do so... Unfortunately, though the idea goes back to the "iron spikes" of 1e - and now in the APG and UE as such - the mechanics of doing so aren't described, to my knowledge, beyond the DC to hear it being done.

I was a big CoC player, back before my high school and college friends scattered to the four winds. I actually had one character survive through over 30 scenarios without dying or ever going insane, but we lost a lot of characters overall, of course.

Well, if some people have expeditious retreat, I would suggest they use it! Knorrin would want the story to get out, hopefully causing a larger force to come root this thing out (if it sticks around).

The character I played in 3.5 also had just made it to 3rd level before he died covering the retreat of his comrades (he was a paladin, though, so that was pretty cool).

Knorrin hustles out of the room and just making it to the other side of the door, drawing a hammer and a spike from his belt.

Can I share a space with Choamski out of combat? Also, I was thinking I could possibly draw the hammer and spike as if they were "weapon-like objects", one during each phase of movement. But if not, OK.

I was thinking more along the lines of who was going to commit fratricide against who so that we don't end up like the thralls. My standards, at this point, are pretty low!

I thought we were, yes. Chasik just buys us some time.

I have a hammer and 8 pitons. Hmm. I get myself as just on the other side of the upcoming door next round with a double move. I wonder if I would be able to somehow draw the hammer and spike the door on the round after that? Hmm. Probably 3 move actions to do so. Well, something to think about if it can get Choamski and Whizzy another round or two.

Well, we can run, but we'll just die tired. :-P It almost certainly moves faster than any of us and it can fly, too, so we are pretty much toast. Even if we run in different directions, I think we can be pretty much assured that it can catch and kill each of us long before we get out of the dungeon system. (We'd have a small chance if it was Large and could escape down the hallway or the tunnel with it squeezing after us.) It also seems like the kind of thing that would make sure to follow us.

It is possible that it has touched enough of the exhibits - or, more likely, it is one of the exhibits - that the defense system on the bridge will go after it, so that might be one way to go. But it can probably fly its way around/over it...

Yep. We can probably just save the time and call it a TPK (except for Chasik, it seems!).

It's kind of a shame since Knorrin is/was tied for my highest ranking character. Oh well, easy come, easy go.

Knorrin, seeing that the situation is hopeless (probably for himself, as well), makes a run for it.

"To the tunnel!" he yells.
Double move away!

Spear: 1d20 + 3 + 2 - 4 - 4 ⇒ (16) + 3 + 2 - 4 - 4 = 131d8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 1 = 9
-4 for cover and -4 for firing into melee.

Knorrin makes a desperate throw of his spear at the wounded dretch, as powerfully as he can...
Probably missed, *sigh*

He then draws his crossbow and moves forward to be in a better position to support Chasik.

I had planned to GM Thornkeep, myself, before taking a break, but was going to do it in the 'campaign mode', and that might be a way for us going forward that would keep Rellen (or Rellen's player) in the group. Basically, it would have been indistinguishable from straight PFS play, but each player would technically be earning pregen-like credit which they would be applying to their characters.

One advantage would be that a dead character could be easily replaced. Another would be that the GM could make alterations, use alternate rules, or do a side quest without bringing down the wrath of the PFS gods.

Just a thought.

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Yes, PfE was cast on Rellen, Chasik, Choamski and myself, in case anyone was still wondering. (I went ahead and just changed my status AC's to reflect it.)

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While Prestige is limited at this point, a raise dead is under 5500. If we could somehow get out of this with something to sell...

Choamski, I think it was only the one that hit multiple times and shredded him, from the way I read the description.

Sorry, Rellen. But, hopefully - if we survive - you can afford a body retrieval and we can pool funds for a raise dead? Unfortunately, I don't know how much cash we will have since we aren't getting much out of this one without looting the exhibits, it seems.

If we do get the body out somehow, I can keep it 'fresh' for a bigger city's raise dead with that Gentle Repose spell.

Seeing Rellen fall - so easily and instantly shredded by the newly-appeared creature - Knorrin withdraws, hoping that they might be better able to fight one monster at a time.

"Invisible flying monster shredded Rellen - he's dead!" Knorrin shouts in the moments he has available. "Four dretch demons - cold iron or blessed are best!"

Withdraw action, drawing an AoO from one dretch. Also, applying the +2 to AC boon against the Visitant.

I meant to relay more info, just saying that bit as "... Knorrin adds." since I've been doing it on my phone.

Is there a Knowledge roll for this new horror?
Edit: Ah, Knowledge (Nature), from the Discussion thread.

Cold Iron Spear: 1d20 + 2 + 3 ⇒ (10) + 2 + 3 = 151d8 + 1 ⇒ (2) + 1 = 3

Knorrin moves in and stabs at the bloated form with his cold-iron spear, hoping to catch the dretch off-guard, but it is a weak blow.

"Perhaps summoned, so expect a summoner!" Knorrin adds.

Knorrin waits, allowing Chasik and Rellen to advance.

Knowledge (Planes): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (18) + 7 = 25

Knorrin, seeing one of the bloated creatures through the open doorway, calls out what he knows about them.
...or doesn't know.

I'll wait on that info for the rest of my turn, if I can.

Knorrin casts Protection from Evil with his wand on Chasik, Rellen, Choamski, and then himself, before stashing it in his belt.

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Ah, I thought that we were just doing it as before. Since it is just 4 rounds, Knorrin will cast PfE on Chasik, Rellen, Choamski, then himself.

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Spellcraft : 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (6) + 7 = 13

"We should have taken them with us, I fear. Should we incapacitate them? "

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Since I am on my phone, I'll just say same pattern as before, with Guidance, Resistance, then PfE, with the last on Rellen, Chasik, and myself.

Thanks, Choamski, for offering to take over the GMing, and thanks especially to GM Lithrac for the GMing so far. (I had to put my own aside for now, too, since it is so time consuming.)

I'm still without my own computer, but ready to take on the BBEG.

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"Yes, I would certainly be glad to, though it would take a bit of rest and preparation. I could do two castings tomorrow, I think. It all depends on how long we want to be away."

GM and Choamski,

Actually, I had purchased (*ahem*) and used a scroll of lesser restoration already, healing my 4 points of Cha damage (unless there was more from somewhere that I missed):

Knorrin's healing

;-)

Rellen, Chasik, and myself should have Protection from Evil active, from my understanding.

Channel energy, harm undead, DC 14: 2d6 + 3 ⇒ (3, 3) + 3 = 9

Knorrin, who had never channeled energy against undead before now - always to heal, never to harm - does his best, releasing wave after wave of positive energy.

5/8 remaining.

Channel Energy, harm undead (DC 14): 2d6 + 3 ⇒ (5, 5) + 3 = 13

Must focus ... That was better!

Ghost salt is a weapon blanch from the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, p. 48-49. You can also check here.

I deducted 3 charges from the wand of PfE, so hopefully that helps with both AC and saves.

Knowledge (Religion): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (10) + 7 = 17

Knorrin calls on Sarenrae's special connection to the sun to bring its cleansing light to this dark place.

Channel Energy - harm undead, DC 14: 2d6 + 3 ⇒ (4, 1) + 3 = 8
Undead do not add their channel resistance because of Sun domain; extra damage also because of the Sun domain.

Edit: Would this be a "enchantment [charm] effects and enchantment [compulsion] effects", if so, the victims would receive another saving throw from the effect because of PfE. (And which has a +2 morale bonus in addition to the +2 resistance bonus.)

Alkali flask: 1d20 + 3 + 1 + 1 - 2 - 4 ⇒ (14) + 3 + 1 + 1 - 2 - 4 = 132d6 + 2 ⇒ (6, 2) + 2 = 10
Counting the greater range and soft cover. I put the Inspire damage in as the +2 since it is a weapon and it is doubled, but I'm not certain about that.

Knorrin throws his alkali flask, hoping to his the right barn.

Hi all,

My computer is in the shop and my backup computer is resisting all attempts to start up properly, so I may need to be botted by someone or GMPCed if there's a holdup.

I may be able to sneak some time in to make a post, though, but don't want to hold things up.

"Got one," Knorrin says, moving closer and retrieving his alkali flask. "But got to get a clear shot!"

The problem is, with soft cover and firing into melee, I'm much more likely to hit someone else than the ooze.

Knorrin delays.

Knowledge (Religion): 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (20) + 7 = 27

"It is as I thought about the appariton: that is definitely a depiction of the Demon Lord Abraxas."

Now, legitimately! ;-)

"I have almost seven gold pieces to my name, so you will be buying drinks, Master Choamski."

Knorrin completes the previous spellcasting ritual, including using the wand again. "Let's go."

"With the materials that were in Azlanti, I would guess thousands of years, since Aroden is - or was - known as "the Last Azlanti" and he founded Absalom, of course, in 1 AR. So, that would be over 4700 years ago, and Earthfall was some thousands of years before that. So, a very long time ago, indeed."

I hope that that is all common knowledge.

"We might need to conserve the wand of protection and the scrolls of bless a bit more, though. Choamski, please take my remaining two scrolls of bless and use your best judgement as to when to use them."

"Prayers for Guidance and Resistance, by Sarenrae's good graces, can be continued indefinitely."

"Perhaps they were like seeds in winter, only revived recently. It could have been the arrival of cultists, or the invasion of the alchemist above, or whatnot that caused them to shed their dormancy."

Finishing with the creature, Knorrin paused and cleaned his spear. Despite showing his greatest martial skill and success in battle, he was not thrilled or elated or even properly satisfied. Instead, he felt simply ... He couldn't even think of the exact word.

Flat.

The silent destruction of whole worlds, as he believed he saw, had, it seemed, affected him in ways he didn't fully understand, and did not want to understand.

Uncomfortable with this ... loss (and perhaps even more so with the internal reflection it was engendering), Knorrin fumbles around in his scroll case and retrieves a restorative spell, casting it on himself.
Lessor Restoration: 1d4 ⇒ 4

Now back to normal, Knorrin smiles simply and cheerfully again. "Friend Chasik, my many thanks for rescuing me from my foolishness! Let me help you with you wounds."

1d8 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 1 = 9

Fighting defensively (+2 to stated AC).
Spear: 1d20 + 2 + 1 + 1 - 4 ⇒ (17) + 2 + 1 + 1 - 4 = 171d8 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 1 = 7

Knorrin moves to help surround the remaining plant creature, emboldened by an uncharacteristic string of combat successes.