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thank you Chemlak. he relented and went with what you said about them being meant to stack.

We have already slowed building down by using the rules from Ultimate Rulership where it takes multiple months to build a building, which I think is a good thing, as it should take more than 1 month to build a castle.

He ruled that settlement bonuses from buildings can stack in the same city, like base value, Law, Productivity, magic item slots and the such. So you could build 6 stables to give you a base value of 3,000 gp in a city, but can only get the Loyalty and Economy bonus once.

I went through the UC and totaled the values from each building once and you get a total of 51 to your Loyalty, yet there are 77 hexes in the first map. So your Control DC would be a 97 without counting the districts required to build just the Loyalty bonus buildings. That means you have to get 50+ points from Leadership and landmarks.

I can see no possible way to sustain a kingdom with the first map fully settled, let alone adding hexes from any other map.

You wrote: Personally, if I were to set a limit like this, I'd do it per settlement, and probably say that the modifiers are halved for each building of the same type after the first, except unrest reductions which are always in full.

I will try to use that logic with him as I can see that as more realistic than limiting only 1 bonus per building to the entire kingdom.

Thank You. I will have him read that section again.

My DM has ruled that building modifiers will not stack in the kingdom. Example: if you build a stable in 2 different towns, you do not gain the Economy and Loyalty bonuses for the second stable. How do I convince him that after you build 1 building of each type your kingdom modifiers will stop increasing, but each new hex will increase the Control DC to an eventual point where only a natural 20 will be able to make any kingdom checks and crash the kingdom? We started this campaign with the original kingmaker rules and the magic item rules got out of hand and killed the game. We restarted with the Ultimate Campaign rules and the building rules of taking multiple months to build a building from the Ultimate Rulership rules from Legendary Games. He says we have to claim hexes to be able to advance to the third book.