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Liz Courts wrote:
We don't typically reprint our Maps or Flip-Mats, but we do release thematically similar maps.

As Rise of the Runelords has just been released in Spanish, it would be very nice having the possibility of buying this flit-map again.


Don't cancel it. Forget this thread. I've changed my mind.

Sorry for the inconvenience.


Could you please cancel this order and all my subscriptions?

Thank you.


Ross Byers wrote:
I can assure you that this will be happening. Likely soon.

Nice. Now the only thing lacking is for Apple to correct the bugs in their PDF engine so I can read the Pathfinder PDFs either in a Mac with Preview.app (which is like an order of magnitude faster than Adobe Reader) or in an iPad.

An iPad with a Retina display will be the perfect portable library.


Andrew Betts wrote:
They've said ePub is in the works.

Thanks, I din't know. Could someone provide a hyperlink to where they said it?


Could we get an option to download an ePub version of Pathfinder Tales books along with the PDFs? Some other e-book stores seem to be doing it with much success.

It will be nice to be able to read the stories in iPads and iPhones, for example.


Thank you!

:-)


Would it be legal to translate OGL content to another language?

And it it is, should the OGL legalese be kept in English or should it be translated to the other language too?

As nobody seems to be translating Pathfinder to the my language I was thinking about translating it myself. And don't know if that is covered by the OGL or not.


In order to be clearer: if you can get the Bestiary out of the order and the subscription, you can ignore my e-mails about canceling.


I sent you a pair of e-mails about canceling my subscriptions and order #1297654.

The thing is that I botched my subscriptions starting issue with the bestiary. It should start with the next item (the GM screen) because I already own the Bestiary PDF and would like to buy the print book after my Pathfinder Adventure Path subscription (I think that the Pathfinder Advantage applies after the first shipment). I don't know if you can modify the shipment.

If you can modify it, then keep my subscriptions. If not I'll remake them again. The thing is that every time that I subscribe I seem to botch with the starting issue thing.

I'm sorry for loosing your time.


I'm also interested in purchasing PDFs for others. Like one can buy songs for others in iTunes.


I'd like to see:

  • I would love mass combat rules too. Especially for use with miniatures although that could merit another book.

  • Also, alternative rules for combat would be nice. The Core Rulebook implies that one can play without a battle grid but doesn't elaborate too much in how to do it. Rules for miniature play without a grid will also be nice, they were the standard ones in 3.0 and the use of the battle grid was covered in the DMG. Here, Paizo could do the opposite covering grid-less battles in the GameMastery Guide. I find those rules very convenient when playing with miniatures in outdoor environment.


I'd like to see more Pathfinder Chronicles miniatures...


Thank you Jason for your efforts. Can't wait to see the final result.

Sweet dreams...


KaeYoss wrote:
Use this as a stopgap measure

Thanks, it could do. I forgot about that miniature.


seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Sorry didn't know he wanted the new setting

Nothing to be sorry about, that he wanted the new setting was only known after he said it.


Enpeze wrote:
Regarding the map I think isnt this the 3rd ed map? I always thought Unther has been wiped in the new version. But maybe I am wrong - I am not that specialist in FR canon.

You are right the linked map was from the 3rd edition campaign setting book, and Unther isn't any more after the spell plague.


And I would also like to get Red Mantis Assassin miniatures from Paizo. They would be very interesting both from the painting and from the playing points of view.

Add Hellknights to that list too—*grin*.


Enpeze wrote:
Anyway IMO pre-painted plastic minis are the future of minis. While now only a talented elite can have good painted minis, prepainted plastic would allow everyone to buy them for their games.

I don't think that only a talented elite can have good painted minis. It depends on your definition of good. Painting metal minis to the standards used by pre-painted plastic minis is not a lot of work.

If somebody wants to paint them up to showcase standards, like those minis shown at Paizo's online catalog, fine; but miniatures for wargames where always painted to lower standards than those. After all, wargame miniature painting is a medium to an end. Painting miniatures for roleplaying games is also usually done to much lower standards or you will hardly ever get a large enough collection of painted miniatures for your games.


The shape of the Inner Sea region of Golarion has been reminding me of Hyboria since the beginning. The difference is that Robert E. Howard decided to make the Mediterranean smaller and got the river Styx, and Paizo decided to make it bigger and ended with the Inner Sea.

For the sake of those island-lovers that have posted before, I'd like to observe that Hyboria seems to have less islands than the Inner Sea region of Golarion, and straighter coastlines. This can be because Howard wanted to reflect a more primitive world more basic in shape. Like that of a block of marble before the artist has finished sculpting a statue out of it. I find that evocative.

Finding similarities with our world like those found in Howard's works makes me wonder if Paizo has thought about some relationship between them. Like Hyboria and Oerth were described by their authors before.


I also happen to dislike those 19th century references in Golarion, but I think that I can live with them and even like them some time further down the road.

What makes them worse for me are some of the pictures that Enpeze referenced. But those could be a case of not so well communicated art orders. The Eagle Knight uniform seems to modern and too imperial French for my tastes but the rest of the modules and background for Andoran doesn't paint the same modern outlook for them. Maybe we see a different Taldor when Pathfinder Companion: Taldor, Echoes of Glory is released next month.


It would be sweet having miniatures for some of the Pathfinder monsters that have been revisited by Paizo. Specially kobolds, bugbears and hobgoblins.

I hope things are going right with Crocodile Games. I'd like to see the catalog will expanded past the 25 blisters barrier sooner than later, and the new product scheduled have left me wondering why the minis are going so slowly.


Thanks!


The Frequently Asked Questions link in the Pathfinder RPG page doesn't seem to work.


Sad. Very sad. Too many marvelous people and places of the Realms are gone. These are not the Realms that I love.

At least on our group we haven't even reached 3rd ed. timeline yet. So we can keep playing in the Realms we know and love as long as we want...

But I'm sure other people will find these new Realms to their liking, and that is good too. :}


Vic Wertz wrote:

I got your magnificent booty right here.

Nice plug...


Vic Wertz wrote:
I'm as big a fan of Apple as anyone, but I think they've really dropped the ball with Preview. I personally stopped using it when Adobe Reader 8 came out. (And the "updated" version that came with OS X 10.5 is even worse than the version that came with 10.4—it has issues with transparency that no other PDF viewer seems to have.)

Yeah, Leopard's version seems worse than the one in Tiger. I hope they get their act straight with Snow Leopard, that's why I keep filling bugs in their system. They seem to correct more than half the issues that I've filled before. Although it usually takes them one year and a half on average.

As the PDF format gets frozen by the new ISO spec I hope that all this rendering issues will disappear from the different rendering engines. And I have to try Reader 9, maybe it's fast again (like it was in Mac OS Classic).

Vic Wertz wrote:
(Have you ever opened a non-protected bookmark in Preview, made a change, and then saved it? You'll lose the bookmarks. Way to go, Apple!)

Yeah, the funny thing is that this behavior is documented, so you can't fill bugs against it, only requests for new features. *sigh*

Leopard's version of Quartz does support editing bookmarks programmatically so I expect that this will be corrected in the future.


Krome wrote:

holy smoke I just downloaded Adobe Reader 9.0 for the Mac.

I am shocked. It runs so fast. The colors are better even. More options and abilities. Down right nice.

I just changed all PDFs to open in Acrobat 9.0 instead of Preview. And that says a lot. Preview was so much faster before. But now Reader wins hands down.

Nice to know and bravo for Adobe. I'll wait for the Spanish version before installing it in my home computer, though.

Now I'll just keep filling bugs to Apple so they can get Quartz up to the task.


James Jacobs wrote:
It's certainly worth remembering that, in the crazy world of online publishing, we DO sort of have to assume a "baseline" for print. For us, Adobe Acrobat is that baseline; it's the program that is the most commonly used application to read PDFs, and therefore we optimize our PDFs to run on it.

Problem is that all my players in the two groups that I play and GM are using Macs and not PCs, so when they open a PDF, Preview is the default app that is opened. Of course that means that my view of the market of computers for RPG gamers is certainly slanted. :)

And I've been opening all the other PDFs I've got from other publishers (Wizards of the Coast, Sword and Sorcery, Mongoose, GDW, FanPro) and all of them are version 1.4 PDFs. The only ones that are giving me problems with Preview are the Pathfinder ones, which are using PDF version 1.6.

So the industry standard seems to be version 1.4. You can see which version each file is using by pressing Command-D while in Adobe Reader, or Command-I in Leopard's Preview.

James Jacobs wrote:
Preview may be better and/or faster...

It's more a matter of Reader being slow on the Mac... *sigh* Adobe. *sigh*

In the meantime, all my Pathfinder PDF files have been marked to open with Reader instead of with Preview. So it's only a matter of being mildly inconvenient for me, not a no-go.

And James, thanks for being here. Love your work, and hope that my players will do in my next campaign.


James Jacobs wrote:
All of that "PDF Standard" stuff is way over my head... but since we use Macs at Paizo, making the PDFs viewable on Macs is indeed important to us. Again, I'll see if I can't get the Second Darkness Player's Guide fixed so that it follows whatever protocols we use for the rest of the PDFs (which seem to be working fine).

Most of the PDFs have glitches when opened in Preview, from non-existing background boxes (in the Gazetteer) to lots of layer boxes that shouldn't be there (from Burnt Offerings on).

That "PDF Standard" stuff can be simplified, given that you seem to be using InDesign CS3. InDesign simplifies PDF compatibility options a great deal:

  • Choos File > Export
  • In the Export Adobe PDF window select Acrobat 5 (PDF 1.4) in the Compatibility drop-down box.
Try to generate a PDF and compare the results using Preview.

All of this, of course if whoever at Paizo that is generating the PDFs has the time to do it. I suppose that we, Mac users, can stand opening Adobe Reader from time to time.

I suppose that in one or two releases Apple will catch up with Reader and none of this will be that important two or three years in the future.

Thanks for your help as always.


I've been reviewing other RPG PDFs I have available and all of them are following the 1.4 spec. I think that nothing will be lost from downgrading Paizo PDFs to version 1.4. Version 1.5 added support for JPEG2000 images, embedded 3D models and linked multimedia. Version 1.6 added embedded multimedia, XML forms and AES encryption. None of this features seem to be used (or needed) by Paizo documents.

I remember that when Shadowrun 4 was released they also needed to regenerate their PDFs to be able to see them on Apple Preview.

Apple PDF rendering support lags some versions behind Adobe. This are the versions of the spec used by the generated PDF files using the built-in support in the system:

  • Jaguar: Adobe PDF 1.2
  • Panther: Adobe PDF 1.3
  • Tiger: Adobe PDF 1.3
  • Leopard: Adobe PDF 1.4
So, those are the safest bets when creating content for use with the native Mac OS X support. It is also of note that all the PDFs you can download from Apple's site are version 1.4.


I said this in another thread but I will repeat it again here: it's a problem with new features of the PDF standard. Paizo generates PDFs using version 1.6 of the standard but version 1.4 of the standard is the safe bet for the largest range of PDF viewers out there.

The Quartz system used by Mac OS X for rendering doesn't like the new layer tricks played by newer versions of PDF standard. I think that version 1.5 PDFs would maybe work in Preview but 1.4 is the safe bet here.

Wizards of the Coast generates every PDF using version 1.4 of the standard and the same toolset as Paizo (Adobe InDesign CS3 5.0.2 and Adobe PDF Library) and they render fine in preview.

If you could redo the PDFs selecting version 1.4 of the standard in the generation options, I think that most Mac users would be grateful.

Preview is very fast when compared with Reader due to it using the native PDF support of the operating system. Also, the Mac OS X version of Reader is dog-slow in a Mac when compared to the Windows version. I'v got a Quad Core Xeon 2.66 GHz Mac Pro, and Reader is visibly slower on this machine than in my work Vista Laptop using a Core 2 Duo 2 GHz. So Adobe is also to blame here.


I'm only giving a possible solution by going to v1.4, but truth is the problem is with Apple and their engine for PDF content. If you look at the PDFs from Wizards new online Dungeon and Dragon magazines, they follow the 1.4 spec and they render fine using Preview. If you look at the doc properties using Reader (Command-D on a Mac, Ctrl-D on Windows) you can see that they are generated using the same toolset as Paizo: Adobe InDesign CS3 (5.0.2) and Adobe PDF Library 8, so it could be as easy as changing the PDF generation parameters.


The problem with Mac OS X Preview comes from the fact that it doesn't fully support all features of the more recent versions of the PDF standard.

It would be nice if Paizo could generate their PDFs using version 1.4 of the PDF standard instead of 1.6 as it is doing now so everything will work fine with Preview which is much faster than Adobe Reader in Mac OS X.


Hi,

I was finally able to divide my pending miniature orders in a way I could maybe get them in three nicely sized batches. My thanks to the customer support team for having the patience of cancelling so many orders until I got them just right.

Now with the questions.

  • When could we expect the currently backordered miniatures to reappear and be sent our way?
  • Will Pathfinder Miniatures be kept in stock for the foreseable future, so that we can get more miniatures if we have the need?
  • Could we expect more miniatures from other sources like Classical Monsters Revisited and the modules. It would be nice to have a little more variety when representing some monsters (think orcs) and some Pathfinder-styled creatures have no miniatures yet (think bugbears and the Shrek-like hobgoblins.)
  • Would you rate miniatures as a successful product? (This is a question out of curiosity, feel free to ignore it.)

No for a nitpicking comment: in the miniatures blister packs it says "Pathfinder Chronicles" but in the web site they are listed as "Pathfinder Miniatures." I found it a litle bit confusing when writing this post.

As a final comment: I love the qualitiy of this minis! Keep them going.


Andrew: does the parchment-like box background of the box in the upper left corner of p. 26 of the Gazetteer show in your system?


The permissions mantra doesn't help. I checked it in three different macs, Intel and PowerPC, and it doesn't show the box background in Preview. Maybe it's an issue with Leopard. If it has something to do with Leopard it is a regression and Apple should be notified. I don't have machines running previous versions of the system to check.


There are problems with the white boxes around elements in Preview as was said before.

There are other problems, like the display boxes background of the Gazetteer not appearing in Preview. Check for example page 26 of the Gazetteer, the box named "Curse of the Darkmoon Vale" doesn't show the background in Preview. It appears in Adobe Reader.

Other minor problem is that the text isn't rendered with sub-pixel antialiasing. But that maybe has to do with some optimizations of the Quartz engine.

At least all of the PDFs are completely readable. In other engines used in Linux systems there are some characters that doesn't appear.


The Quartz rendering engine has some slight problems with some of the Pathfinder (AP, modules) PDFs.

I understand that you are generating the PDFs using Adobe industry-standard tools, so the problems should be with Quartz. Could I get permission to submit the problematic files to Apple, Inc. technical support so they can get the problems fixed?

Thanks.


Will this miniature be available again?

There are a lot of problems ordering miniatures. I'd like to order the right quantity of them to be nicely packed in the same order but that seems very difficult. If I need to make more orders when they are available they will cost more to me.


This miniature is currently listed as unavailable? Will it be available again soon?


I intend to do the same that Ed Greenwood did on his original Realms campaign. I'll ask my players what they'd like to do. Most possible we'll do a tryout game of H1 Keep on the Shadowfell. Then it's their vote that counts. We are five players and a DM. Whatever gets the most votes wins.

I'm still undecided. Now that there's more meat out there I like some of the changes and the possibilities, but I still long for old-style D&D. But my opinion can change. Every time I talk about some change that I find disgusting, my girlfriend surprises me saying that it's much better for the game. That's the way I discovered that she likes combat the most in D&D and that she finds it slow, who would have thought?

Tomorrow we'll try to play a game of the new D&D miniatures game and see what we think about it.

In the end, only time will tell. But my reluctance to change to change to 4th edition seems to be waning a bit.

Cheers!


Zooroos wrote:
Edit: Where I can find the big gazetteer map you've mentioned above?

You can find it at the january blog archive page. Look for the entry titled Sneak Peek: Map of Golarion.


Could we maybe get some kobold minis in the spirit of D1 Crown of the Kobold King?

And I would also like to second the proposal of having miniatures for the redone races present in Classic Monsters Revisited. Having some hobgoblins would be interesting, for its own sake and for running Burnt Offerings. Also, everybody loves some orcs...


When are the minis currently in backorder expected to arrive?


Please, remember to add logos in print quality formats (PDF for example) so DMs can generate good handouts for their players.


Slip cover, yes.

DM screen, yes but even a generic Official Pathfinder screen will do.

Battle mats, unlikely because those are complex things to get right because I don't like to put a map of a building on the table where players can see areas they have not visited.

Hand out, no. Why? Because we game in Spanish and one my players has very low English proficiency.


Thanks, Cosmo, keep up the good work!


Arctaris wrote:
Where would one find these?

Sprinkled around Paizo Blog entries.

Just go to the blog and browse through the past months, they are always shown as a thumbnail picture. Click on the thumbnail picture and the desktop picture should load on your browser.


Only to notice that the Pathfinder desktop are very nice... but they are too small and not available in 16:10 aspect ratio as most current displays.

The only computer where I can use them without seeing big pixels is my old PowerBook Ti with a 1280x854 size. The computers that I am using currently have 1440x900 and 1920x1200 pixels displays.

Which is a pity because I would like to use them from time to time.

Apple, for example only distributes desktop pictures that are 2560x1600 pixels with Mac OS X, and that would be a perfect size. Don't know what size are the desktop pictures that come with Windows Vista, though.

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