Karzoug the Claimer

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I will certainly check out 2e, but will probably only do so in order to pick out the best parts (if there are any) and will then incorporate them into my 1e games.

Reasons for doing so:

1 Really enjoy the 1e/3.5/d20 style of play
2 Have been playing the game since 1974 and do not wish, at this time, to learn a new system (which from everything I have read is what this will be, just old labels slapped onto new mechanics)
3 Have enough 1e/3.5/d20 stuff to last me until my grandson has grandkids... :)
4 There will probably be LOTS of 3 party publishers still doing 1e for years.


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I will be downloading the playtest materials when they are released and checking things out, but doubt I will be 'wowwed' enough to convert to the new system when it comes out.

I am happy for the people that are excited about getting a new system. However, I moved to Pathfinder because it was an evolution of the gaming system I loved. It was firmly grounded (about 90% commonality) in the gaming system I had played since 1974 even as that gaming system evolved and changed.

So why am I not doing the same with PF2e...? Because from the list of changes for the playtest it is more of a 'let's streamline things' sort of edition. Which means (to my mind) dumb down things. Just my perception, could be wrong.

I also hate to see Paizo going the route of Wizards. Bringing out a new edition of course increases their revenue stream. Sell all the stuff again, right? To my mind, wrong! People have invested thousands of dollars in their interest/hobby and now suddenly, that gets sidelined. Why? Has there been an overwhelming outcry for a new game system? For an improved one (that has little commonality with the existing system save for using the same labels with spiffy new and improved mechanics *read changed here*)? I don't know, I am not a part of the Paizo customer service department but again I don't think so. I go to the Cons and the PFS players there have not been screaming to have all of their characters (which have taken years to advance to where they are) nerfed or rebuilt. Just the opposite actually.

As a corporate decision, I get it. But please, don't try to sell me on how great this is going to be. That is something we have seen already (4th edition anyone?) and it is insulting.

So again, happy for everyone that is excited about a new 'edition' but think it will ultimately be a new system. Which I have no interest in.

How much is my no interest? Well I was going to go to PaizoCon again but why bother? PFS play is going to take a major hit due to this change in a few months one way or another... so no need to bother with trying to get in some PFS play.

Some games reach a point where they do not need to be improved merely expanded and appreciated. As an example, I offer Monopoly. Played it as a kid, still play it occasionally with friends and plan on playing it with my grandkids... Because it is just fun. Always has been, probably always will be.

Winding this up, I would like to thank Paizo for a great 10 years and wish them luck. But they will not be getting any more of my money save perhaps some miniatures now and then. Between the stuff they have released and the wealth of 3rd Party Publishers out there who have been supported PF1e for the past 10 years, I suppose I have enough material to last me for a VERY long time.


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I think that VRMH is on the right track here with regards to the Doppelganger Simulacrum...

It is basically a snapshot of the creator at the time it is made. It does not age except for the time the creator animates it. I think it is better in some ways than a clone and less powerful in others.

In some regards it is like a part time simulacrum (cf. simulacrum spell); except that it is not animate at all times, again merely when the creator is 'driving' so to speak.

Additionally within my own campaign at home, have seen this used as part of a reoccurring villain VERY successfully especially since the first few times it happened, the party was not quite sure what was going on.