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FrontLineFodder wrote:

Thanks for the clarification, Jim — I had forgotten that the new store is currently applying a 15% discount for everyone during the launch period.

Just to confirm my understanding: once this transition period ends, even if we have Legendary tier in Paizo Plus, unless we maintain 4 or more active subscriptions, our subscription and add-to-next items will ship with no discount, since (as you’ve said) “Paizo Plus won’t apply to subscriptions.”

That is correct.

Thank you for making that clear.

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This is where the new store is becoming more challenging for international customers here. With the higher shipping costs, add-to-next is essential for bundling orders in a way that makes shipping reasonable.

Because store sales and Paizo Plus discounts don’t apply to add-to-next items, taking advantage of sales requires placing separate orders, which means paying shipping again and often removes most or all of the benefit of the sale.

I wanted to share how this combination of rules affects customers who rely on add-to-next to manage shipping costs.

Shipping is becoming a bigger issue every day, and I think the only solution we have is partnering with other companies to distribute our products from AU/EU locations. That's on my radar, but the first priorities have been "stand up a new ecommerce store and work out all the new backend processes." We're in that phase now and likely will be for some time. But I definitely hear you on this issue; I just need some stuff to get checked off my list before we can start working on international solutions. Thanks for your patience.

-Jim

Thanks for acknowledging it again Jim

Paizo Customer Service have been great for me, solved my issues with the bundle no worries.
I like to use the web form here:

• https://support.paizo.com/support/home

Right now, everyone is receiving a 15% off discount for subscriptions. We did this to match the 15% off for Legendary as we worked through the site launch. Going forward, the only way to get 15% off subscription products will be to have 4+ subscriptions. Paizo Plus won't apply to subscriptions, other than the gold it generates.

-Jim

Thanks for the clarification, Jim — I had forgotten that the new store is currently applying a 15% discount for everyone during the launch period.

Just to confirm my understanding: once this transition period ends, even if we have Legendary tier in Paizo Plus, unless we maintain 4 or more active subscriptions, our subscription and add-to-next items will ship with no discount, since (as you’ve said) “Paizo Plus won’t apply to subscriptions.”

This is where the new store is becoming more challenging for international customers here. With the higher shipping costs, add-to-next is essential for bundling orders in a way that makes shipping reasonable.

Because store sales and Paizo Plus discounts don’t apply to add-to-next items, taking advantage of sales requires placing separate orders, which means paying shipping again and often removes most or all of the benefit of the sale.

I wanted to share how this combination of rules affects customers who rely on add-to-next to manage shipping costs.

Thanks Jim,

To me, this looks more targeted at those who don't have the Legendary tier already.

When you say "Paizo Plus discounts and Store sale prices don’t apply to subscriptions or add-to-next products."

We know Sale prices do not apply to add-to-next products (disappointed having to do seperate international shipments for the BF sales), however I infer you mean Paizo Plus discounts do not stack on top of the new Subscriber Advantage discount (which is expected).

From what I can tell currently Paizo plus discounts do apply to subscription and add-to-next products. (unless this is changing from Subscriber Day onwards)

I subscribe in order to amortize the shipping cost over multiple physical items.
The next shipment is apparently a single flip mat.
This will cost me USD$45 in shipping for a single USD$19.99 Flip Mat.

I couldn't even pick up physical items from the recent sales to ship with the next sub order, as they were all going to be charged at full price.

No, I need to skip this next sub delivery and look at how things ship next year.

So I picked up the new bundle, I have most of the items already but that doesn't matter.
however I am unable to ship the Elemental Stones with my next subscription order. adding the item to ship with my next sub adds it at full cost.

I do not think I want to pay $45USD to ship the one physical item to me by itself. I am already going to have to skip the next sub order because shipping a single flip mat for USD $45 is insane.

I am not even able to remove the Elemental stones item from the order.

Ohh darn,
I didn’t realize. Might need to hit up CS with changes

As much as I'd love to turn on the ability for people to write reviews for whatever products they'd like, the current system has been damaged by bots, international spammers, and those who hate particular product lines or editions. Paizo just doesn't have the resources to police a vast catalog constantly under assault by bad actors.

We know you're not the bad actors, but to start we need to leave the baseline as "only verified purchasers." In the future, feature gods willing, perhaps we can change that to unlock as you move up reward tiers. One more item for new feature requests...

-Jim

I understand this new subscription / storefront suite Paizo is adopting is no doubt in part due to wanting to get away from maintaining the custom build system deployed previously., however..

Perhaps once Organised Play is upgraded (I'm making the assumption it would be) then the review system could be expanded to allow confirmed players (or GM's) to submit reviews on scenarios or adventures they have a chronicle for ?

It sounds to me like you DO get it.

Secret Lairs are definitely predatory. Artificial scarcity and a horrendous purchasing policy.
Holiday sales ARE employing the same techniques. Watch a TV commercial for one and count how many times they remind you that it's a limited time offer. They want to create that feeling that you'll be missing out if you don't buy now.

This reward program isn't as bad as those in its manipulation. It's more boring and ordinary.

But reread the description for Legendary Loot and tell me that's not designed to induce fomo.

You may have missed Jim's clarification on the Legendary Loot concept;

We don't have any plans to gate new content behind legendary loot, but it's possible you might see ultra-deluxe editions available there. You'll be able to get the current editions normally, though.

-Jim

I have absolutely no concerns about this aspect of Paizo's business plan.

How about a Mythic Tier for those of us that have spent over $1500 in the last year *whistles and side-eyes*

Or a lifetime status for those that have spent over a certain amount lifetime like airlines do for their million mile flyers?

Ohh Cori, I love what you are thinking with the Mythic tier, but my wallet does not.

Lifetime status, would be nice, Anniversary gold for each year in your Tier. (anniversary date may change when you level up (or Abadar forbid, if you level down)

I will throw my 2 Aussie cents in

first off, the "Follow us on Social Media" reward and arguments for or against any specific platform, just cap it at 3 platforms. We don't have to catch them all, and nobody spends meaningful time on 6 platforms anyway.
If a new "Must Have" social platform comes along, offer a bonus gold reward then to get the follower numbers up.

I like the idea of offering Legendary Loot exclusives personally, and if I dropped out of Legendary tier it would not be the end of the world. This is assuming it is inconsequential items like hero point coins or pins, and not exclusive story lore that only the legends can know.

Society Scenarios, I can not work out the math right now, but the $10 off a society scenario at a list of $9 each, and discounted to ~$7.65 makes odd numbers which hurts my brain.
Will society subscriptions still be available at the 20% discount ?
It feels like to me it would be better :value" to hold off on purchasing society scenarios into larger groups to get the most out of the gold, which could delay playing society games for some GM's.
(I am sorry to be looking at the $ and c but most people will, sorry) (no I am not Canadian)

overall, I can not wait. THANKS!

Treasure Vault is not in the bundle. It was in an earlier draft of the product list, and it looks like I didn't catch it here when I was putting the blog together. Sorry for the confusion.

Thank you for clarifying,

Not for being a subscriber, but I have good news! Anyone who preorders any edition of Treasure Vault (Remastered), standard hardcover, special edition, and sketch cover, by June 3rd will get a free PDF with their pre-order!

This is great, Thank you.

though it will sit in my sidecart until after PaizoCon. I don't really need to use TV items for those characters.

IMO This would have been better than the discounts for the Earth Day promotion.