Derrick Harris's page

Organized Play Member. 14 posts. No reviews. No lists. No wishlists. 7 Organized Play characters.




Hello folks. This is in regards to Pathfinder Society play in particular, as the rules generally go by the letter of the wording in the book in society play vs. home games. So. Here's the situation:

I'm playing a fighter with the Polearm Master archetype and I'm wanting to purchase the Gloves of Dueling. However, a buddy of mine is telling me that they will not work for me.

Wording:

Polearm Training (Ex)

At 5th level a polearm master gains a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls with spears and polearms. The bonus increases by +1 for every four levels beyond 5th.

This ability replaces Weapon Training 1.

Wording:

Gloves of Dueling
These supple gloves grant the wearer a +4 bonus to her CMD against disarm attacks, attempts to sunder her wielded weapons, and effects that cause her to lose her grip on her weapons (such as grease). The wearer doesn’t drop held weapons when panicked or stunned. If the wearer has the weapon training class feature and is using an appropriate weapon, her weapon training bonus increases by +2.

His arguement is that since I do not have Weapon Training that the Gloves of Dueling will not increase my Polearm Training as the wording of the gloves only covers the fighter's Weapon Training ability. I disagree with this, because my archetype ability does the same exact thing at the same exact level increments as weapon training but only allows a smaller weapon selection. In addition to this, out of 29 fighter archetypes, only 4 do not make some kind of change to weapon training. I can't believe that roughly 80% of fighters would be unable to utilize the Gloves of Dueling.

Please clarify. And yes, I would really appeciate a response from a Paizo staff member. :) Thank you all ahead of time. Please keep it friendly.