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I would say yes, since it is as if you put a rank in the skill. Also, a strange scenario arises: you could also put ranks into Linguistics and get languages per rank there too, but only the higher of "real ranks" and "shaman-level pseudo ranks" would apply for skill bonuses.
i.e. a level 4 possessed shaman who chose linguistics as one of the shared skills who also put a point into linguistics every level would have 8 extra languages, but would only get Wis bonus + 4 + miscellaneous for skill rolls, not Wis bonus + 8 + miscellaneous.


And an unencumbered human rogue with spider climb and rope master talent could (with a +8 and -5) move at 60 (twice normal land speed) on a rope. That seems unintended.

I am now imagining a thief running on the ground having previously used a robe of infinite twine to lay out an escape route.
edit: Hmm, only on a climb check, so instead wind the ropes through the roofs of the city or tree tops of the forest.


Sorry for thread necro, but I too am curious about this.
Witches' familiars can learn from other witch familiars.
Since witches' familiars only store witch spells, and a spirit whisperer's familiar stores wizard spells, spirit whisperer familiars (SWF) should be able to learn from other SWF, but can't learn from witch familiars.
I personally would think that guven the rarity of a particular archetype, SWF should be able to learn from other wizard's spellbooks by studying the spellbooks and also help the other wizards to teach them how to write a spell in their spellbook. Otherwise, the loss of the spellbook feature is a huge blow to the versatility of the Wizard class.


Mouselings are another cute looking option for a pudgy high charisma young ratfolk character.


Steelfiredragon wrote:
why you'd want to destroy the plant life?

To make a semi-permanent trail?


DeathlessOne wrote:


1) I see no reason why the Sun and/or Glory domains would not work on any positive channeling you perform, regardless of what class it came from. Evidence to support my conclusion, the Orc bloodline for a sorcerer. The bonus damage effects ANY spell that character casts, not just sorcerer spells.

Thanks!

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2) Can't help you with that one. I can't find it on the online resource and have no idea what book it is in. However, if it simply says 'whenever you channel positive energy' like the domain abilities, it would work on any channel pool.

Thanks again! I guess this will make healing our non-good party members interesting. :)

FYI, According the d20pfsrd:
Channel Angelfire (Su)

An angelfire apostle must be of good or neutral alignment and must choose to channel positive energy, even if his deity is neutral or if he is not devoted to a particular deity. When an angelfire apostle channels positive energy, affected nongood creatures are dazzled for 1 round, with no saving throw for this effect, in addition to experiencing the normal effects of channel energy.

This ability alters channel energy.


doc roc wrote:
Why oh why with the channeling!?!?.... Put your stats and feats to better use!

There are reasons. A devoted healer in a potentially undead heavy campaign; with very low (rolled) physical stats... With Life Links, channel foci, etc, the more channels and lay on hands available, the more tightly focused variability.


also, Shaman Spirit Warden archetype gets a second channel pool earlier than Witch Doctor, but it's only for harming undead.

The Witch Hex Channeler should not be overlooked for a two level dip because it has an oft overlooked feature of channeling "from herself or *her familiar*" (no range limit mentioned for the familiar channel energy; and the next paragraph seems to contrdict this).


I asked this question in the rules forum but didn't recieve a response... since my character build is a multiclass of several of these classes, wearing a phylactery of positive channeling (eventually ending up in Holy Vindicator to boost all the channel pools), I figured this thread might be the best place to ask:

1) When multiclassing with multiple channel pools, and a cleric class has Sun and/or Glory domains, do the domain granted powers function on _all_ channel pools or just the cleric's? (there were answers to that one in other threads, but they were admittedly guesses; they said granted powers work on all pools)

2) Same situation, but now the cleric is one of the new archetypes: Angelfire Acolyte. Does the new "dazzle all affected non-good for one round" ability work for all channel pools, or just the cleric channel pool?


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phantom1592 wrote:

I don't think magical writing is really a 'language' per se. Druidic is a secret language... but magic isn't really something I've seen that could be covered by linguistics or tongues or comprehend language.

Personally, I think the spellbooks and such would be written in a standard language the same way some massively complicated calculus or trigonometry equation would be. Those with the know-how can decipher it, but it's just gibbersh to us other poor mortals.

And spellbooks and scrolls are not calculus textbooks, but are instead more like notes from comprehensive lectures. Filled with doodles, emphasizing different things based on the writer, sometimes missing "obvious" conclusions that are a waste of time to write down... It takes time (or a spell) to decipher them, even for the knowledgable.


Now I'm more confused. The only threads I've been able to find on the matter suggest that cleric domain granted powers which alter channeling *do* affect channel pools of other classes:
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ql7i?DoubleChecking-Multiclass-Channel#1
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2k5z8?Multiclass-Cleric-Paladin#1

But that doesn't fully help me because channel angelfire's effect on channeling isn't a domain granted power, but instead "alters channeling". Does it only alter the cleric channel pool or all (as with Sun, Glory)? Magic items and feats that affect channeling tend not to be restricted to a specific pool...


According to the Angelfire Apostle Cleric Archetype from the new Healer's Handbook, "Channel Angelfire" states that when an AA channels positive energy, affected non-good creatures are dazzled (no save). If the character also has other positive channel pools from other class levels (e.g. Paladin or Life Oracle), do I assume correctly that these pools do _not_ also have the dazzle effect?

Similarly, the bonuses to channeling from Glory and/or Sun Domains can also _not_ be applied to channel pools from non-cleric class levels?