Hi,
I have a few questions concerning how martial training works and I hope, some of you can bring me enlightment, what it can do and what not. I try to answer them myself, but feel free to correct me, so I can fully understand how this ability works.
First of all, the text: „Martial Training (Ex)
At 1st level, a brawler counts her total brawler levels as both fighter levels and monk levels for the purpose of qualifying for feats. She also counts as both a fighter and a monk for feats and magic items that have different effects based on whether the character has levels in those classes (such as Stunning Fist and a monk’s robe). This ability does not automatically grant feats normally granted to fighters and monks based on class level, namely Stunning Fist.“
I guess, the first sentence covers some feats like e.g. Disruptive „Prerequisites: 6th-level fighter.
Benefit: The DC to cast spells defensively increases by +4 for all enemies that are within your threatened area. This increase to casting spells defensively only applies if you are aware of the enemy’s location and are capable of taking an attack of opportunity. If you can only take one attack of opportunity per round and have already used that attack, this increase does not apply.“
But that is all I understand with total certainty.
I guess the last sentence means, when you are a brawler, you do not get any feats, which both parent classes would gain by leveling up the brawlerclass, so that the Brawler does not get everything from the monk AND the fighter class or to be more accurate, Brawlers do not get anything.
But what does the second sentence mean and how does he correspond with the third one? If I dip a level in Monk, I would get everything a lvl 1 Monk would get, that includes e.g. stunning fist (ex), which let´s me get stunning fist (feat). In my opinion, this does not connect with martial training at first, but stunning fist (ex) says: „The monk may attempt a stunning attack a number of times per day equal to his monk level, plus one more time per day for every four levels he has in classes other than monk.
At 4th level, and every 4 levels thereafter, the monk gains the ability to apply a new condition to the target of his Stunning Fist. This condition replaces stunning the target for 1 round, and a successful saving throw still negates the effect.“
And here my mind is not very sure how martial training works.
I guess, if I take at first one lvl in monk and afterwards just brawler lvl, I get one stunning fist per day plus at character lvl 5 (=1 lvl Monk + 4l vl Brawler) a second one and so on. But what about the changes of stunning fist (EX, not the feat) starting with lvl 4? It speaks about „monk“, but not about „monk lvl“? Even if the Charakter would be an Ex-Monk beeing a brawler starting with lvl 2, he still would count as monk. So would the EX stunning fist even scale for the brawler at character level 4?
Thanks for reading, please correct me, if I got something wrong.