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A question that came up this evening concerning compulsion based spells like dominate person. Can anyone clarify when the domination takes hold of a PC once they fail their save? Is the dominated PC immediately dominated upon failing the save, and if so, when does the dominated person get to react to the caster's bidding? Is it immediate, like a summon animal spell; or does the dominated person react on his original initiative turn.


I need a bit of clarification from the more experienced pathfinder players. The situation arose this evening where the last initiative character of our group was going. He cast overwhelming presence on the evil doer. Evil doer fails his save. Does the Evil doer get an immediate second save to end the prostrate effect because our cleric was the last character to go before starting a new round? Or if the evil doer fails his save, is he forced to go prostrate for one of his rounds before getting a second attempt to save?


I have a couple of question regarding mystic thurge for those in the know or have experience with them...

1) In order to meet the prerequisites for becoming a mystic thurge, can a character be a third level cleric who has a domain in magic (thus giving the character the capablility of casting a second level arcane spell) and a first level wizard AND thereby qualify for the prerequisites of being able to cast both divine and arcane 2nd level spells? If not, why not?

2) Generally speaking: What do you think of them? What were the advantages and disadvantages in your experience? Where they worthy of pursuit or are there other character classes/pretige which are more fun?

Appreciate the help.