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So, I posted on this a bit ago, but wasn't very clear as to what I was looking for. Below, I have a build for a knife master/scout. Knife master/Scout:
Rogue (Knife Master/Scout) Dex>Con>Cha>Wis>Int>Str Ability increase: +2 Dex Substitute Focused study for human bonus feat Focused Study 1: Skill Focus: Acrobatics Level 1 – Feat: Two-Weapon Fighting Level 2 – Talent: Finesse Rogue Level 3 – Feat: Weapon focus: Dagger Scout Feature: Scout’s Charge Level 4 – Talent: Offensive Defense Level 5 – Feat: Death From Above Favored Class Talent: Ninja Trick: Hidden Weapons Level 6 – Talent: Underhanded Level 7 – Feat: Quick draw Scout Feature: Skirmisher Level 8 – Talent: Combat Trick: Combat Reflexes Focused Study 8: Skill Focus: Use Magic Device Level 9 – Feat: Improved Two-Weapon Fighting Level 10 – Talent: Skill mastery: Use Magic Device, Acrobatics, Sleight of Hand, Stealth Level 11 – Feat: Lunge Favored Class Talent: Fast Tumble Level 12 – Talent: Opportunist The character is an update from one I made for 3.5. I made it before I saw V for vendetta, but that's more or less the concept I'm going for.
How does this look? Is there anything that I may have overlooked? Maybe someone knows a way I can optimize.
So I was helping a friend (first time player) put together a rogue, and I had so much fun I wanted to make my own. We eventually decided that what he really wanted to play was probably an alchemist, and while I'm already playing an inquisitor my character will likely die soon. I'll Explain Below. First a little info on the campaign: Story>rules
Caid the inquisitor - Why my current character will die:
Full background can be found here Since the setting is low magic, the gm gave me permission to trade my inquisitor spells for full BAB and 8+int skills/level. I'm not sure how balanced this is. Caid the Inquisitor
Conversion inquisition
So I had some odd rolls. I originally wanted to play a switch hitter ranger, but my stat's suggested a different path. Not necessarily a topic for this thread, but it seems unnecessarily hard to build out a decent character without a good str, dex, cha or int. (druid wasn't an option, and cleric was taken) My story in brief is that i come from a long line of wizards who reinforced their blood with the blood of magical creatures (to become sorcerer wizards). After a great war, the house fell and now the heirs of the blood have so much conflicting magic mixing in their veins that they die young-ish (without magical intervention), and they have difficulty bearing children (again, without magical intervention). So Caid is old for his house, his aim was once top-notch and has been ruined by arthritis and the slow transformation of his blood into magma/fungus/shadow/starlight/whatever else. Either way, my character's hours are numbered; my ac is a whopping 12.
The Future character: The Maven of the Wastes:
Rogue (Knife Master/Scout) Dex>Con>Cha>Wis>Int>Str Ability increase: +2 Dex Substitute Focused study for human bonus feat Focused Study 1: Skill Focus: Acrobatics
The character is an update from one I made for 3.5. I made it before I saw V for vendetta, but that's more or less the concept I'm going for. Theme is painful SA with daggers. after level 4 use the charge action to guarantee SA when closing. Death from above gives +5 to charging from higher ground and offensive defense boosts my AC, so jump with acrobatics during your charge. Eventually get a ring of jumping (or wand of jump) to boost jump checks (and then figure out how to fly). Hidden weapons and knife master will ensure that you always have a trick up your sleeve, and underhanded will make those tricks hit hard, especially after lvl7. Is there anything that I may have overlooked? Maybe someone knows a way I can optimize. edit: moved rogue to a spoiler to reduce the "wall of text" effect
So I've been looking through the forums and guides, and I find a lot of support for taking the quickdraw feat early. Now it seems to me that the feat provides a very minimal bonus before level 6 (for full BAB classes)and level 8 (for 3/4 BAB classes). Why is this? let's read the feat
Quickdraw :
Quick Draw (Combat) You can draw weapons faster than most. Prerequisite: Base attack bonus +1. Benefit: You can draw a weapon as a free action instead of as a move action. You can draw a hidden weapon (see the Sleight of Hand skill) as a move action. A character who has selected this feat may throw weapons at his full normal rate of attacks (much like a character with a bow). Alchemical items, potions, scrolls, and wands cannot be drawn quickly using this feat. Normal: Without this feat, you may draw a weapon as a move action, or (if your base attack bonus is +1 or higher) as a free action as part of movement. Without this feat, you can draw a hidden weapon as a standard action.
Unless I missed something big, there is no benefit to this feat at all unless you get more than one iterative attack. You can draw a weapon as a move action, and then use your standard action to attack, or draw for free as part of a move, and then attack as a standard action. The only cases in which I could see this being useful before level 6 (or 8)is if a 3/4 class were able to take it at level 1 (which they can't. BAB +1 prerequisite) , or an archer with rapid shot wanted to be able to make a full attack in the first round of combat(in which case, the utility and focus of the feat is rather weak IMO). After level 6 (or 8) this feat gets a lot more use for certain builds. Like to throw weapons? this is the feat for you! Like to fire arrows until your enemy is 5 feet away? Then this is your feat as well! From an optimization standpoint, unless you like to stand still and throw things, the feat would be better spent somewhere else. Have I missed something? Are there good uses for quickdraw that I have overlooked? |
