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In my quest to find a viable feinting build I have looked at Improved Two-Weapon Feint (UC) and the Moonlight Stalker feat chain (UC). Since these are the only ways to get a full attack while feinting.

Overall I found that Improved Two-Weapon Feint starts too late (level 8-9) to be useful at all and loses a very valuable attack making it questionable to use at all. I put a lot of emphasis on getting something to work early, preferably around level 5-6 it should come together otherwise it may never see play or get used very rarely before the campagin inevitably ends. As such I abandoned ITWFeint for Moonlight Stalker Feint which grants feint as a swift action.

The base class used was a Ninja as Rogues are not as fun, and Vivisectionist gives up smoke bombs for sneak attack.

Race:

The race is relevant in that Moonlight stalker requires low-light vision or dark vision, there are a few classes and archetypes that grant this but they require two or three level dips.

Half-Orc, +2 bonus to one ability score
This is my preferred choice as you can put the bonus to Strength for to-hit and it comes with Darkvision, the best vision. In addition half-orc can qualify for Keen Scent, allowing you more easily locate enemies within a fog cloud. Plus Scent is a very cool ability. Keen Scent will cost you in the point buy, meaning you can't dump Wisdom as it requires 13, bad for min-maxers but nice for people who hate dumping anything especially Wisdom due to perception and will saves.

Half-Elf, +2 bonus to one ability score
A solid choice but the racial abilities to this class leave much to be desired, choose if you don't like half-orc.

Elf, -2 Str +2 Dex +2 Int
You lose strength and gain intelligence and dexterity, you don't need intelligence beyond qualifying for Combat Expertise, I would skip it.

Gnome, -2 Str +2 Dex +2 Cha
The lost strength really hurts, and you don't need very much charisma since you will, in an ideal situation, use all your ki for smoke bombs.

Dwarf, +2 Con +2 Wis -2 Cha
The charisma penalty hurts your ki, which will be limited due to MAD, though you only really need it for smoke bombs. The other stat bonuses don't hit strength, I can't see this race doing well at an already tough build.

Point buys:

I place a lot of emphasis on strength because I think that weapon finesse for rogues is a trap, costing a feat to get dex to hit only to lose out on damage anyways and Dervish Dance is a questionable feat outside the core books that also restricts weapon choice. One build assumes Keen Scent for a half-orc which requires 13 Wisdom, feel free to dump it but I think some kind of blindsense ability is necesary when fighting in fog.

Since you are fighting in fog you will have concealment and total concealment from most enemies, therefore you could potentially dump dexterity. If you take a couple levels of Lore Warden, as you can make up the lost AC with Full Plate which doesn't intefere with any Ninja class ability though it may hurt your stealth checks and mobility a bit.

Point Buy(20): with Keen Scent (Oh lordy look at that MAD)
17 Str Racial +2
12 Dex
13 Con
13 Int
13 Wis
12 Cha

Point Buy (20): without Keen Scent
19 Str Racial +2
12 Dex
12 Con
13 Int
8 Wis
12 Cha

All level-up points should go to strength because you need to stay combat viable.

Feats:

I have two separate paths here one for straight Ninja, the other uses two levels of Lorewarden to ease the required number of feats since this build uses a lot of feats to get going. Lorewarden also grants Martial and Heavy Armor proficiencies allowing for free choice of weapon and armor, that way you never miss out on the randomly looted awesome sword or armor that doesn't fit your feats.

In the straight ninja build you can't really use your ninja tricks for anything but Smoke Bomb and Combat Feats (thanks to the Combat Trick), but smoke bombs are pretty cool.

In the Lore Warden build you take Lore Warden as your first two levels, which delays smoke bomb and sneak attack but you can fit in Keen Scent or any other feat you fancy at level 1. You can also pick any feat at level 4 though I prefer Power Attack since this is a combat focused build using preferably a two-handed weapon.

20 Ninja
1 Blind Fight
2 Smoke Bomb (Ninja Trick)
3 Shadow Strike
4 Combat Expertise (Ninja Trick: Combat Trick)
5 Moonlight Stalker
6 Moonlight Stalker Feint (Ninja Trick: Combat Trick)
7 Improved Feint
8 Greater Feint (Ninja Trick: Combat Trick)

2 Lore Warden/18 Ninja
1 Keen Scent, Blind Fight
2 Shadow Strike, Combat Expertise
3 Moonlight Stalker
4 Ninja Trick: Smoke Bomb
5 Power Attack?
6 Moonlight Stalker Feint
7 Improved Feint (Ninja Trick: Combat Trick)
8 Greater Feint

In Combat:

In combat your first job is to hit them with a smoke bomb, this could cause issues since your party may not want to fight in fog, but usually the baddies will attempt to get out of the fog so they can fight back. This could have the benefit of blocking enemy archers/wizards and splitting up enemies, if an enemy stops just outside of the fog then you will still have concealment 5 feet away in the fog.

When attacking, you will start off with a swift feint at level 6(this means no extra ki attack as that also uses swift actions), this should be rather easy as most monsters don't have high wisdom, throw in a circlet of persuasion and a masterwork bluff tool (a flashy cloak might suffice) for a +15 at level 6 which should succeed against even level opponents, a wondrous item of bluff for +5 circumstance bonus would probably cost about 2500 gold. It isn't perfect but should be reliable enough.

If you are surprised you can smoke bomb with the enemy on top of you and give your party full/partial concealment to buff and prepare to counterattack, watch out for fireballs though as they will blow away your cloud. Remember that you are still capable of combat outside the fog: with flanking or move action feinting at level 7+.

Before level 6 you won't be able to easily feint and attack but you still benefit from Moonlight Stalker's +2 to hit and damage for fighting in the smoke bomb's cloud, or any kind of concealment including darkness, foliage, or heavy snowfall.

Overall it's far from a perfect sneak attack build and may not even be viable, if there is any interest I will expand on my decisions and choices. I probably won't get a chance to play this build in the near future but there was a complete lack of Moonlight Stalker builds and especially Ninja builds on these boards.

Let me know what you think, what you would change, and where you might take a similar build.

Side Notes:
-Moonlight Feint is a swift action so you won't benefit for the Ki Pool extra attack on the same turn, but haste would be really good to have.
-Feint does not count for ranged attacks so I did not touch on it, but that would be so cool if it did.
-If my math is correct attacking through 20% concealment shouldn't be an issue with Blind Fight since you will only have a 4% chance of missing due to concealment. You're more likely to roll a critical miss than miss due to partial concealment.


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firedancer wrote:

Ultimate combat has a feat tree based on dimension door or abundant step, which lets you zip around like a flea.

I really like this idea, must have read more X-men/X-calibers than I thought!

What I'm not sure of is what is the quickest route to either of these two requirements?

Is there a race with dimension door as a spell like ability, is there an monk archetype that moves adundant step to an earlier level?

Many thanks for looking and any answers!

Full casters seem to qualify for Dimensional Agility before anyone else (level 7), the monk is stuck waiting until level 12 for all current archetypes. Summoner gets Dimension Door as a 3rd level spell qualifying him at the same time as a Wizard would qualify (level 7) despite slower spell progression.

That leaves you with the Wizard, Cleric (with the Travel Domain), and Summoner qualifying at level 7, just in time for your seventh level feat. Sorceror just misses that cut-off getting Dimension Door at level 8 and waiting for the ninth level feat get a Dimensional Agility.

Now with Wizard you can get Dimensional Agility at level 7 and Dimensional Assault at level 9, but you don't qualify for Dimensional Dervish (the best one) until level 13 due to BAB, this can be fixed by multiclassing as a higher BAB class for a couple of levels. The wizard will have more dimension door spells per day then anyone else qualifying this early, but will lack the health, AC and attacks per round to really utilize it.

The Cleric would be ideal with 3/4 BAB if not for the limit on a single domain spell useable for dimension door, you may eek out a couple more by using higher level domain slots I'm not too familiar with Cleric spellcasting to really back that up.

The Summoner has the BAB and, if you take the Synthesist archetype, can be an effective melee combatant. The caveats with Summoner are really just the confusing rules text for the Synthesist archetype, your mileage may vary depending on your DM.

The least cumbersome method of qualifying might be the Horizon Walker's Terrain Dominance(Astral Plane) which grants 3+Wisdom Modifier per day uses of Dimension Door as a Spell-like ability. This method has the advantage of requiring a commitment of only 6 skill points, a feat in endurance, and 3 levels in Horizon Walker (A full BAB, d10 hit dice, 6+int skill points prestige class). The earliest you can qualify for Dimensional Agility with this method is 9th level (3rd level Horizon Walker). However you can add this onto a Monk and utilize that high Wisdom for extra BAMFs per day.

That's what I've seen so far in terms of qualifying for Dimensional Agility/Dervish. Beware prestige classes and abilities similar to Dimension Door, I believe the Shadowdancer's Shadow Jump does not qualify for Dimensional Agility due to not being Dimension Door the spell/spell-like-ability nor Abundant Step.

I would refrain from using a Monster race for qualifying (such as Nymph). These races are not balanced for use by PCs and often times only get a single use of the sought after spell as well as some really powerful abilities.

If anyone can find any other methods of getting Dimensional Agility, please let me know.