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And it's a wrap, people! When does Hitler arrive?


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Jessica Price wrote:
Kerney wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Kerney wrote:
Can we please close this thread? All sides have expressed their opinions and other than arguments about specific cases, we're seeing the same arguments and a repeated non agreement to disagree which can be repeated ad finitum.
you know if they close it down, a new thread with a slightly different title about the same subject is going to spring up an hour later, with all the same arguments etc.:)

Maybe we could at least get a cool new thread name!

More seriously, as a male 40 something who remembers chain mail bikinis and lingerie witches, I could easily be saying something like "could these hyper politically correct whiners please shut up. Haven't we made a good faith effort to make room?"

On the other hand, a thirty something female who has been harassed a few times at the table might have a different perspective.

It's a good idea for both sides to remember this.

No. Those are not equivalent.

I know you probably didn't intend it that way, but as it reads, your first statement implies that this hobby somehow belongs to you because you're male, and that you're doing us some sort of favor by allowing us to participate in your hobby. It doesn't belong solely to you and people like you, and you don't get to say, well, we'll be a little less hostile and a little less objectifying and now shut up and be glad you got that much, you interlopers.

I am not an interloper, a guest, a foreigner, to the Land of RPGs because I am a woman. Neither are non-straight people, people of color, or anyone else.

Your second statement -- which, incidentally, is me -- is someone presumably 100% justifiably upset about her right to participate in her hobby in peace being infringed.

So yeah, the way you framed it there? Those two sides aren't equally valid.

I don't normally get involved in back and forth banter, but he didn't say they were equivalent. They're obviously not, to me at least. We're on a slippery slope when we start to put words into other people's mouths.

Whilst I think this is a topic very worthy of debate, I too vote for it to be closed; too many passions are being stoked.


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Daniel36 wrote:
You see, I am merely throwing around poorly conceived ideas simply to give the developers some food for thought. I will be the first to admit I am not in any way versed in the language of programming, so I have no idea which of my ideas are possible or not, but that's not even the reason I am throwing them around. I am merely giving the developers something to think about.

Speaking as a developer this is exactly what we need, and on what we truly thrive on. We can get very caught up in the mechanics of various functions and not see other possibilities. It's fun to get a lightning bolt out of the blue and suddenly think - hey, why didn't I see that!?

Don't put yourself down, good ideas are good ideas regardless of source or experience. :)


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Kolokotroni wrote:
The question is whether or not it was next to a potted flower, perhaps petunias

10 points for working Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy into the conversation.

:)


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It just so happens that I am currently about half way through DMing a 3.5 conversion of Temple of Elemental Evil.

A good guideline for conversion can be found here.

Good luck, you should enjoy it. I did. :)