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So

I know an alchemist will prepare a spell by brewing an extract, and he "casts" it by drinking it, or by giving it to an ally IF he has infusion. This is quite straightforward in most cases, but there are a few situations where it's not so clear...

1: Casting time. A few extracts on the list have longer casting times. Contact other plane takes 10 minutes. What's going on here for an alchemist? Is this particular extract keg-size and he's chugging for 10 minutes?

2: Multi targeted spells. IF (and only if) the alchemist has infusion and he uses a spell with multiple targets like haste, can he affect his allies? What if the spell is one that affects you and creatures touched (like say shadow-walk) (and again the alchemist has infusion).

that's it for the moment

thanks!

Ancalagon


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Hello

I'm new to pathfinder and I've been reading the SDR with great interest and thinking of trying to convince my group to switch (great job Paizo!).

I was very impressed with the alchemist, because I've always wanted to play one and this seems like the best class for it yet. But I do have a question. I've did a bit of reading on the forum and it doesn't quite answer what happens in a specific scenario of extract use by an alchemist.

Let's say that Joe the Alchemist is with his friend Bob the Heavy Footed Rogue. Bob is going to scout ahead, and Joe knows that Bob will get in trouble.

Scenario 1: Joe drinks an extract to help defend himself (say, cat's grace). This is very straightforward, no questions here.

Scenario 2: Joe tells Bob "hey, bring this extract with you. If you get in trouble, just drink it". Again, the rules are very clear, Joe can only do this if he has the Infusion discovery.

Scenario 3: Bob comes back, peppered with arrows and colapses at Joe's feet. Joe kneels down and pours an extract of cure light wound in Bob's mouth.

This is where I am perplexed. The SDR says "An extract immediately becomes inert if it leaves the alchemist’s possession, reactivating as soon as it returns to his keeping—an alchemist cannot normally pass out his extracts for allies to use" The infusion stays with Joe the whole time. Joe is using it, not Bob (Bob is merely the recipient of the effect, say way if Joe was a cleric, he would be casting the spell, not Bob). So... does Bob in the third scenario need infusion to do this?

Thanks!

Ancalagon