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I have a friend with tons of 3.5 material.
That happens to be main reason he is not going 4E.
Now Paizo launches Pathfinder RPG that claims to be a "a replacement for the 3.5 core rules".
Who does this product appeal to him?

maliszew wrote:

alleynbard wrote:

I am encouraged as well.

We shall see. I'm personally of the opinion that the utterly unrestricted nature of the 3E OGL led to some amazing designs that simply will not be comparably possible under the 4E version. We may well see lots of extremely good third party D&D support products under this new OGL but what we won't see are exciting new games that use the 4E rules to go in new directions and I think that's a shame. A gaming world where Mutants & Masterminds or Spycraft 2.o are no longer possible is a less vibrant one for me.

Agreed. If it weren't for games like Conan, Spycraft, Game of Thrones, etc. I wouldn't have purchased ANY WotC books.

There's also no way in hell that I'd abandon those games.

Can't the 3rd companies release new products under the 3.5 ogl with the 4e feel? It's the same system, d20 system.

Can't they release Spycrat 3 with "4e" rules but legally under the 3.5 ogl? If they can recreate the d20 system to create Spycraft, why can't they strecht it a little more to reach the something close to 4E? Just turn saving throws into static defenses, make new classes with lots of at will/per encounter/per day powers, create new feats with the 4E feat philosophy, use make some talent trees, that are already in the d20 modern OGL anyway, etc etc etc.

Conclusion: If 3rd party companies stretched the 3.5 OGL to create completely new games such as Spycraft, M&M, Arcana Evolved, Trued20, etc, why can't they create a new one that looks a lot like 4e and share its feel and philosophy, but still under 3.5 OGL?