Core Rulebook 2nd Printing Errata

Monday, November 9, 2020

With the Pathfinder Core Rulebook 2nd printing beginning to arrive, we’ve published a list of errata found by Paizo staff and fans alike. Many thanks to those of you from paizo.com and other fan communities who helped find potential errata. While there’s a variety of small improvements, here’s a list of five of the changes that appear in the errata that had the most scope. Some of these were also present in the first set of errata:

  • All classes increase their unarmed attack proficiency along with their weapons.
  • Alchemists gain a scaling item DC without taking a feat and can make more of their field specialty items at 1st level, instead of 5th. They all gain medium armor proficiency in addition to unarmored and light armor.
  • We simplified how you carry items into held, worn, and stowed items, making it easier to determine where you can find each of your items without needing to go nitty gritty and buy every bandolier, pouch, and pocket to contain them.
  • We lowered the Bulk of several items and separated out the alchemist’s kit, which is for travel, from the alchemist’s lab, which is very heavy. These changes make it easier to carry your important tools on the go.
  • We clarified Sustained spells to make it clear whether you could Sustain them multiple times in the same turn and get a benefit.

We hope these errata make the game even easier and more fun to play and run. Thanks to all the editors and playtesters for the Core Rulebook for helping us put out a product with relatively few errors despite how massive it is. While of course, no book is ever perfect and more errata may come down the line, we’re expecting that there won’t be any future updates of this size.

Mark Seifter
Design Manager

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Is there a PDF version of this new errata like the first one somewhere?

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Just noticed another "stealth" change in the CRB that was not listed in the errata.

Page 563 - healing potions now have the "positive" trait that they didn't have before.

My guess is that this is in response to the existence of the Oil of Unlife from the APG. I suppose it's time for my dhampir to swap out what items he carries.

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CanisDirus wrote:

Just noticed another "stealth" change in the CRB that was not listed in the errata.

Page 563 - healing potions now have the "positive" trait that they didn't have before.

My guess is that this is in response to the existence of the Oil of Unlife from the APG. I suppose it's time for my dhampir to swap out what items he carries.

"Ugh, that fight was almost the death of me. Thankfully, I came prepared."

He uncorked the potions and chugged them quickly. He sighed with relief and then glanced at the bottle.

"Hm? Who put this sticker on the label? I don't remember it being there before."

The sticker says "NOW INCLUDES 100% POSITIVE ENERGY"

"W-wait a minute. I'm a dhampir! I'm allergic to--"

Drops dead with a thud.

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Stupid New Coke.


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Mark Seifter wrote:
3) Much more minor, but to clarify the math of Cloud Jump, added an example of a character with 40 foot Speed who rolled a 25 and has Cloud Jump.

Having checked the Errata...Cloud Jump is significantly less fun of a Skill Feat now. This is for Legendary Athletes, like those in Greek Myths.

If all adding actions does is increase your limit, then the High Jump capability is not a lot, since only the Long Jump distance is tripled.

A Legendary Athlete at level 20 with 24 Strength and a +3 item would peak at 20+8+7+3 or around +38. Even with a natural 20, a Monk could have a higher speed than that High Jump.

Now hitting that 50ish feet and then adding an additional 55 or so feet with each action to get into that Dragon's face as he's trying to Circle Strafe 100 feet up with a breath weapon, only to either Flurry his face or grapple him with Titan Wrestler?

Now that's what I'd call Legendary.

I'm fine with a lot of the other Errata, but that one saddens me.


Was it mentioned how long the second printing had already been shipping for? If I order it through other sites, will I get a first printing or second printing? (Sadly the shipping is too much to Australia from paizo.com).

I’m very keen to get a copy, just want it to be a second printing.

Sczarni

1st printing has been sold out since like August.

Obviously other sites may still have inventory.

2nd printing just started shipping.


Mewzard wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
3) Much more minor, but to clarify the math of Cloud Jump, added an example of a character with 40 foot Speed who rolled a 25 and has Cloud Jump.

Having checked the Errata...Cloud Jump is significantly less fun of a Skill Feat now. This is for Legendary Athletes, like those in Greek Myths.

If all adding actions does is increase your limit, then the High Jump capability is not a lot, since only the Long Jump distance is tripled.

A Legendary Athlete at level 20 with 24 Strength and a +3 item would peak at 20+8+7+3 or around +38. Even with a natural 20, a Monk could have a higher speed than that High Jump.

Now hitting that 50ish feet and then adding an additional 55 or so feet with each action to get into that Dragon's face as he's trying to Circle Strafe 100 feet up with a breath weapon, only to either Flurry his face or grapple him with Titan Wrestler?

Now that's what I'd call Legendary.

I'm fine with a lot of the other Errata, but that one saddens me.

This is not something you can do, sadly, without Sudden Leap and similar feats. If you use these jump abilities, you can't attack before you fall. You need something that lets you chain a strike along with the jump. Unless you meant by "get into the Dragon's face" to actually jump and stand there so you could perform other actions.

This makes the Felling Strike plus Sudden Leap much stronger now.

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Thomas Keller wrote:
Is there a PDF version of this new errata like the first one somewhere?

There is not. We felt a living web page was a better way to serve the community than multiple PDFs. It’s quite easy to copy/paste text into the document type of your choosing.


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Aaron Shanks wrote:
Thomas Keller wrote:
Is there a PDF version of this new errata like the first one somewhere?
There is not. We felt a living web page was a better way to serve the community than multiple PDFs. It’s quite easy to copy/paste text into the document type of your choosing.

A printable document would have been better.


Thomas Keller wrote:
Aaron Shanks wrote:
Thomas Keller wrote:
Is there a PDF version of this new errata like the first one somewhere?
There is not. We felt a living web page was a better way to serve the community than multiple PDFs. It’s quite easy to copy/paste text into the document type of your choosing.
A printable document would have been better.

Or maybe just copy and past and adapt as you see fit? You want the information not a beautiful layout anyways.


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Elfteiroh wrote:

YYYYEEEAH!

Awesome!
Need to read all the changes!

(I already knew the "worn/held/etc" items changes because of the Gear cards, but nice to not be the only source on the internet of these rules! xD )

how about getting the faq site to work?


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Lightning Raven wrote:
Thomas Keller wrote:
Aaron Shanks wrote:
Thomas Keller wrote:
Is there a PDF version of this new errata like the first one somewhere?
There is not. We felt a living web page was a better way to serve the community than multiple PDFs. It’s quite easy to copy/paste text into the document type of your choosing.
A printable document would have been better.
Or maybe just copy and past and adapt as you see fit? You want the information not a beautiful layout anyways.

That's okay, someone online put it in a printable format.

Oh, also, the search function doesn't work on this errata page.


Thomas Keller wrote:
That's okay, someone online put it in a printable format.

Where is this?


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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CcCYGnI80Oj53gO1CKeSfP3FIzTw8iCX/view?usp= sharing

Sorry, I don't know how to post it as a link.

Also, it doesn't include the new errata that Mr. Seifter posted about earlier.


Thomas Keller wrote:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CcCYGnI80Oj53gO1CKeSfP3FIzTw8iCX/view?usp= sharing

Sorry, I don't know how to post it as a link.

Thanks! :)


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Aaron Shanks wrote:
Thomas Keller wrote:
Is there a PDF version of this new errata like the first one somewhere?
There is not. We felt a living web page was a better way to serve the community than multiple PDFs. It’s quite easy to copy/paste text into the document type of your choosing.

A living web page has the potential to be better than a point in time document, IMO. However to reach that potential you need a couple of things to be true, neither of which are at present.

1. The living document has visual indicators of when something was added. Either separated chronologically, tagged with colors for "recent" changes", or each line explicitly dated, etc. We don't have this which is why there's complaints about "stealth" errata and a difficulty telling what's new in this batch from the last batch.

2. More frequent updates. If errata only drops 1/2 a year, its not really a living document. If your work flow requires batching things for when a book's text is actually changed for a reprint, you might as well spend the time to make a printable errata document.


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Thomas Keller wrote:
Sorry, I don't know how to post it as a link.

Just some BBCode. Specifically you start with a pair of square brackets. [] and on the inside you put url= and then the link. You then put whatever text you want the link to look like after the ] and then finish off with a [/url].

Also, there's a handy "How to format your text" button right below the post window. ↓

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Dagnir wrote:
Elfteiroh wrote:

YYYYEEEAH!

Awesome!
Need to read all the changes!

(I already knew the "worn/held/etc" items changes because of the Gear cards, but nice to not be the only source on the internet of these rules! xD )

how about getting the faq site to work?

Weird. It works fine for me. I would love to take a look into your problems, but I’m sadly not a Paizo employees, so I can’t do it right now, I don’t have access to their backend. :(


NielsenE wrote:
1. The living document has visual indicators of when something was added. Either separated chronologically, tagged with colors for "recent" changes", or each line explicitly dated, etc. We don't have this which is why there's complaints about "stealth" errata and a difficulty telling what's new in this batch from the last batch.

Like aside from the default black plain letters, using bolded red to indicate newest errata "actually applied" in the latest printing, and italicized green to indicate additional errata "not yet applied" in the latest printing, right?

(By the way, is there any way to color or underline my typed letters in the Paizo forums?)


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[color=red][u]This is a test.[/u][/color]

Test failed. :-)

Sczarni

Android and Chrome doesn't pick up your underlining, either.


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Lightning Raven wrote:
Mewzard wrote:
Mark Seifter wrote:
3) Much more minor, but to clarify the math of Cloud Jump, added an example of a character with 40 foot Speed who rolled a 25 and has Cloud Jump.

Having checked the Errata...Cloud Jump is significantly less fun of a Skill Feat now. This is for Legendary Athletes, like those in Greek Myths.

If all adding actions does is increase your limit, then the High Jump capability is not a lot, since only the Long Jump distance is tripled.

A Legendary Athlete at level 20 with 24 Strength and a +3 item would peak at 20+8+7+3 or around +38. Even with a natural 20, a Monk could have a higher speed than that High Jump.

Now hitting that 50ish feet and then adding an additional 55 or so feet with each action to get into that Dragon's face as he's trying to Circle Strafe 100 feet up with a breath weapon, only to either Flurry his face or grapple him with Titan Wrestler?

Now that's what I'd call Legendary.

I'm fine with a lot of the other Errata, but that one saddens me.

This is not something you can do, sadly, without Sudden Leap and similar feats. If you use these jump abilities, you can't attack before you fall. You need something that lets you chain a strike along with the jump. Unless you meant by "get into the Dragon's face" to actually jump and stand there so you could perform other actions.

This makes the Felling Strike plus Sudden Leap much stronger now.

That's what GRAB AN EDGE is for! :D

Just grab on to arrest your fall, then attack to your heart's content! XD


Ed Reppert wrote:

[color=red][u]This is a test.[/u][/color]

Test failed. :-)

I do see your smiley, but I still think it bears mentioning that Reppert is joking, by deliberately user perhaps the two most common BBCODE tags that aren't supported by Paizo's forum.

This forum supports these and only these tags:

QUOTE
B
I
S
URL
EMAIL
LIST
BIGGER
SMALLER
OOC
SPOILER
DICE

(Per the "how to format your posts)

Nefreet wrote:
Android and Chrome doesn't pick up your underlining, either.

No, Mr Reppert used tags that simply aren't supported by this site.

Sczarni

In other discussions it seems some browsers do, though.


Nefreet wrote:
In other discussions it seems some browsers do, though.

[citation needed]

I've never seen the underline tag work and there is no reason I can see that a different browser would render it "correctly" because those characters are character literals, not html markup tags (which use <> instead).

Now, someone might have a userscript that injects it, but that's not a stock feature. Its a userscript.

Sczarni

The Fox actually sees [U] and [color] in the "How to format your text" spoiler.

Read from HERE down to comment #32, focusing on the spoilers.

It was also mentioned in a Blog sometime before that, when color was introduced.


Nefreet wrote:

The Fox actually sees [U] and [color] in the "How to format your text" spoiler.

Read from HERE down to comment #32, focusing on the spoilers.

It was also mentioned in a Blog sometime before that, when color was introduced.

And in #32 he says it is probably a plugin. Whether a plugin or a Tampermonkey script is unclear, but the end result is the same. It is not standard Chrome.

Sczarni

Draco18s wrote:
It is not standard Chrome.

I stated that up thread.

HERE is where I first asked about color a year ago.


Nefreet wrote:
The Fox actually sees [U] and [color] in the "How to format your text" spoiler.

User scripts that add functionality to your browser not only add color, but they rearrange how the page itself is displayed.

Without those plug-ins (aka add-ons), Firefox, Chrome, and Edge do not display colors, and do not show those options in the "How to format your text" spoiler.

I just checked, using all three browsers.

Sczarni

...I'm not arguing here?


Nefreet wrote:
...I'm not arguing here?

Me either. Just clarifying what people can see using the three most common browsers without modification.

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Happy Monday. I have confirmed both the FAQ page and the Search function are operational in Safari and Chrome. Please report any functionality issues you experience to webmaster@paizo.com.


Mark Seifter wrote:

...

2) In the errata entry for attacks, added a breakdown explanation of attack rolls, the attack trait, and multiple attack penalty.
...

Thanks for that! Having all of those rules elements broken down in one place is very helpful.


Aaron Shanks wrote:
Happy Monday. I have confirmed both the FAQ page and the Search function are operational in Safari and Chrome.

How is Firefox working for you?

https://paizo.com/pathfinder/faq still gives me an error page

We're having some trouble right now.

Please try again in a few minutes. If you repeatedly receive this error, please let us know.
Error 500

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CrystalSeas wrote:

How is Firefox working for you?

I use FF almost exclusively except for a few work tasks and I've never seen the 500 error when viewing the FAQ at all. I think that if folks are seeing it the issue likely lies with some rather agressive addons that embed themselves into browser (like a dozen premium trashfire Antivirus and Firewall software services), an out of date FF version, or maybe just an immense and bad browser cache.


Themetricsystem wrote:
I use FF almost exclusively except for a few work tasks and I've never seen the 500 error when viewing the FAQ at all. I think that if folks are seeing it the issue likely lies with some rather agressive addons that embed themselves into browser (like a dozen premium trashfire Antivirus and Firewall software services), an out of date FF version, or maybe just an immense and bad browser cache.

Yeah, I tested again by clearing the cache and turning off all extensions and add-ons before I posted that.

If you're getting to that page right now without problems using FF 82.0.3, then I may have to log out and clear my cookies.

Edit:
Logout. Don't do anything. Log in again.
Fixed!


I tried it on FF and had no issues at all. No logout. No cleared cookies. All extensions/add-ons on.


I'm not having any trouble using Safari right now.

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Gisher wrote:
I'm not having any trouble using Safari right now.

And I am. The FAQ page and the paizo.com homepage both return an ERROR 500 for me in Safari. I'm fairly certain it has something to do with being logged in, as it also gives me the Sign In link on the error page instead of recognizing that I'm already signed in.

Firefox works, but I'm also not signed into the site at all on there.

Sczarni

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WOW!!!

Preview as you type.

Nice

Sczarni

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Okay, well, other than the fact I can't seem to scroll up and view earlier comments, I'm liking the new layout.


Nefreet wrote:
Okay, well, other than the fact I can't seem to scroll up and view earlier comments, I'm liking the new layout.

Looks cool but I can't click on favorite a second time to remove the favorite. I tried to do so on your post and I can't remove the favorite.

PS: in the main thread list, the new post notice doesn't reset for this thread. Mine says (5 new) even after visiting here. It also takes me to the same post as if I wasn't here too, so it keep going back to my last post.


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Speaking of formatting... does this thread suddenly look different than the rest of the forums for anyone else?


I did notice I can no longer reach this thread from the main forums.
i.e. both of these links take me to the Paizo homepage.
https://i.postimg.cc/YC0c680K/image.png


Squiggit wrote:
Speaking of formatting... does this thread suddenly look different than the rest of the forums for anyone else?

Yep, this is completely different now.

Draco18s wrote:
I did notice I can no longer reach this thread from the main forums.

For me they bring me here.


graystone wrote:
For they bring me here.

Same, although the number of unread/new messages doesn't update on the main forum for me anymore for this thread.


Now I end up here properly. Maybe it was because I managed to get the accurate URL and had to log back in again?
But yes, the new-post count is also wrong for me now too.
(Oh and the live type preview is bad and keeps flicker-undoing stuff and ending up with characters I've definitely typed not visible; extremely annoying).
https://i.postimg.cc/nLHtsZm2/image.png


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Signed out, cleared cache, able to reach this thread again.

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