Fiction Finder: Pathfinder Legends

Ya I need to finish getting rest of these. It is kinda interesting to observe changes they made from the original versions... Though feels kinda weird they had Merisiel without Kyra :p

Were these not popular enough to keep the line going like the novel line?

I know fantasy fiction novels have been dying off for a long time but with podcasts and listenable media being so trendy maybe these have a shot at profitability now?

I know fantasy fiction novels have been dying off for a long time

Citation needed?

I think the reason they may never have caught on was price. $8x6 is a steep price to pay for "one" story to listen to.

Fantasy as a genre is doing perfectly well, but the "shared fiction novels that are really promo material for a TTRPG" subgenre have died so hard that even WotC isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more.

These were really good (and each series got better, imo).

I think I remember hearing that the reason they didn’t continue was more that Doctor Who did brilliantly for them, so everything else kind of got reduced resources. That wasn’t any official statement though. Just gossip on their forums.

Though feels kinda weird they had Merisiel without Kyra :p

Then you need to listen to the Crimson Throne ones!

Fantasy as a genre is doing perfectly well, but the "shared fiction novels that are really promo material for a TTRPG" subgenre have died so hard that even WotC isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more.

Does this include Relentless which doesn't release until July in Hardcover no less? Or points thereafter? Is there a press release you can point me towards that states this policy of no more novels? Cause a hardcover release for a fantasy game tie-in novel seems to be the opposite of "isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more."

Gorbacz wrote:

Fantasy as a genre is doing perfectly well, but the "shared fiction novels that are really promo material for a TTRPG" subgenre have died so hard that even WotC isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more.

Does this include Relentless which doesn't release until July in Hardcover no less? Or points thereafter? Is there a press release you can point me towards that states this policy of no more novels? Cause a hardcover release for a fantasy game tie-in novel seems to be the opposite of "isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more."

Bolded for emphasis, as the toothy bag said, and you should have read, WotC are not doing them anymore, they canned their novel line awhile back.

Harper Voyager are the publishers for R.A. Salvatore's current Drizzt trilogy.

Tristan d'Ambrosius wrote:

Gorbacz wrote:

Fantasy as a genre is doing perfectly well, but the "shared fiction novels that are really promo material for a TTRPG" subgenre have died so hard that even WotC isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more.

Does this include Relentless which doesn't release until July in Hardcover no less? Or points thereafter? Is there a press release you can point me towards that states this policy of no more novels? Cause a hardcover release for a fantasy game tie-in novel seems to be the opposite of "isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more."

Bolded for emphasis, as the toothy bag said, and you should have read, WotC are not doing them anymore, they canned their novel line awhile back.

Harper Voyager are the publishers for R.A. Salvatore's current Drizzt trilogy.

So Wizards sold the character and the rights to Harper Collins? Wizards isn't profiting from the novels? Wizards are still doing them in the sense that they own the character, they have to okay said license. You can buy them on the dnd website. Who has say on the books Wizards, or Salvatore? Even if they are not publishing the books, they are still "doing" them unless Wizards received or receives no monetary compensation. And I don't think Hasbro is going to give up any revenue.

Rysky wrote:

Tristan d'Ambrosius wrote:

Gorbacz wrote:

Fantasy as a genre is doing perfectly well, but the "shared fiction novels that are really promo material for a TTRPG" subgenre have died so hard that even WotC isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more.

Does this include Relentless which doesn't release until July in Hardcover no less? Or points thereafter? Is there a press release you can point me towards that states this policy of no more novels? Cause a hardcover release for a fantasy game tie-in novel seems to be the opposite of "isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more."

Bolded for emphasis, as the toothy bag said, and you should have read, WotC are not doing them anymore, they canned their novel line awhile back.

Harper Voyager are the publishers for R.A. Salvatore's current Drizzt trilogy.

So Wizards sold the character and the rights to Harper Collins? Wizards isn't profiting from the novels? Wizards are still doing them in the sense that they own the character, they have to okay said license. You can buy them on the dnd website. Who has say on the books Wizards, or Salvatore? Even if they are not publishing the books, they are still "doing" them unless Wizards received or receives no monetary compensation. And I don't think Hasbro is going to give up any revenue.

No that's not how that works, wo4rds have meaning.

WotC is still making money due to owning the characters and setting (to my knowledge), but they are not doing the books, as toothy bag said.

Tristan d'Ambrosius wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Tristan d'Ambrosius wrote:

Gorbacz wrote:

Fantasy as a genre is doing perfectly well, but the "shared fiction novels that are really promo material for a TTRPG" subgenre have died so hard that even WotC isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more.

Does this include Relentless which doesn't release until July in Hardcover no less? Or points thereafter? Is there a press release you can point me towards that states this policy of no more novels? Cause a hardcover release for a fantasy game tie-in novel seems to be the opposite of "isn't doing any Drizzt novels any more."

Bolded for emphasis, as the toothy bag said, and you should have read, WotC are not doing them anymore, they canned their novel line awhile back.

Harper Voyager are the publishers for R.A. Salvatore's current Drizzt trilogy.

So Wizards sold the character and the rights to Harper Collins? Wizards isn't profiting from the novels? Wizards are still doing them in the sense that they own the character, they have to okay said license. You can buy them on the dnd website. Who has say on the books Wizards, or Salvatore? Even if they are not publishing the books, they are still "doing" them unless Wizards received or receives no monetary compensation. And I don't think Hasbro is going to give up any revenue.

No that's not how that works.

WotC is still making money due to owning the characters and setting (to my knowledge), but they are not doing the books, as toothy bag said.

So do they do them or does Salvatore do them. They're getting done. And Wizards doesn't have to outline the cost of publication, but by owning the rights they would have the say as to whether they get done or not, right? Depending on the term of Harper Voyager's publication. Somebody else could publish the next one but only get done at Wizards' say so as the owner, right? So Wizards' really isn't done with the books, right? They're still doing them, profiting from them, continuing them as connected to their intellectual property of the Forgotten Realms, I would assume with somebody with oversight at Wizards since they wouldn't want their property mishandled. So they're are still doing them, right?

What he meant was that they’re not publishing them anymore_

You can keep arguing about what “doing them” means, but his point was that novels tied to rpg settings used to be big revenue streams and they aren’t any more. (..."shared fiction novels that are really promo material for a TTRPG" subgenre have died so hard...).

This is a widely known and discussed fact. Wotc themselves have commented on it and there were several, corroborating reports of similar from disparate sources on these boards in recent days. Companies are exploring new ways of doing it, but there’s been a significant, negative change in demand for such books (especially obvious given the significant increase in gamers after 5E’s success)_

I found these very enjoyable to listen to. I also found them useful inspiration as a GM Especially the scribbler. The Interactions between the iconics members was golden. Still need to listen to mummies mask, though I'm waiting until I end up GMing it or after I've played it.

/activate aggrieved geek voice

This is clearly untrue to the source material! Any gamer worth their d20s would know that you don't go adventuring without a healer. And these adventure paths are 1st edition to boot!

Highly unrealistic!

Will not buy!

((Sorry couldn't resist))

Seriously it's nice to see the variety of things Paizo has on offer. Reminds me of TSR when I was a kid. Personally I love find the path's mummy's mask playthrough but most of the characters are Osirioni which is a very different vibe from the Iconics.

ograx wrote:

I know fantasy fiction novels have been dying off for a long time

Citation needed?

I think the reason they may never have caught on was price. $8x6 is a steep price to pay for "one" story to listen to.

$8 is a fair price for a section of story if that story has enough meat on it. 2 hours of audio is a very tough sell at $8. For $15 I can grab an unabridged audio book for 12-22 hours of content.

Maybe bundle them with syrinscape offers or with PDFs of the AP? Release them as pre-order bonuses for anniversary P2E editions?

Maybe super insider paizo patreon rewards bundle where these are a bonus?

I would pay $8 for an animated story board of the same content but stand alone audio is still too tough sell.

I am interested in these & never knew they were out there!

I am interested in these & never knew they were out there!

I really recommend them. FWIW, I think the later two series are a marked improvement on the first, but they are kinda, sorta sequels (in really trivial, “passing comment” ways) so if you fuss about things like that, you might want to listen to them in order (?)

I agree and would wholeheartedly recommend them too. A quick comment re the price: these are fully cast audio dramas, like a play on the radio, rather than an audiobook with one actor reading the book. With music, special effects, and a full cast, I would guess they cost more to produce than an audiobook and so have to be priced higher. The question to answer, then, is: is it worth the extra money for the greater immersion? For me, it is and the extracts mentioned above might help determine if it's going to be worth it for you too.

I would like this series to continue too - there are many more APs, of course, plus I think many of the novels would convert magnificently to this format. Whom to cast as Jeggare? Radovan? Torius Vin? Jendara? Luma? Larsa? Salim? Rodrick? ...