Organized Play Monthly Update

Woo! Congratulations Shannon!

Woot!

Great news. Looking forward to a better 2021.

*Ancestry Guide intensifies*

Congrats to Shannon on that 5th star!

Congratulations, Shannon on your 5th Star!!

Looking forward to a better year than the one that shall not be named!!

Congrats Shannon!

Congratulations, Shannon, and thank you!

Congrats Shannon!

And I guess we missed the deadline for the con listing this month, but the Metro Boston Lodge is coordinating PFS1/PFS2/SFS games at virtual TotalCon, February 18-21. More details at my forum post here

Yay, adding Mike Kimmel to the OP team is great news! Congratulations Mike!

Congrats Shannon and Mike :)

Congratulations Shannon and Mike!

How do you purchase things with fame?

How do you purchase things with fame?

Same way you purchase things with gold, write them on your chronicle sheet.

Congratulations, Shannon and Mike!

Hmm

Congratulations!

Thomas Keller wrote:

How do you purchase things with fame?

Same way you purchase things with gold, write them on your chronicle sheet.

There's nothing on the My Organized Play page? If there is I couldn't find it.

Is there a list somewhere of boons and fame cost?

Robert Hetherington wrote:

Thomas Keller wrote:

How do you purchase things with fame?

Same way you purchase things with gold, write them on your chronicle sheet.

There's nothing on the My Organized Play page? If there is I couldn't find it.

Is there a list somewhere of boons and fame cost?

They are in the Guide to Organized Play.

Thomas Keller wrote:

Robert Hetherington wrote:

Thomas Keller wrote:

How do you purchase things with fame?

Same way you purchase things with gold, write them on your chronicle sheet.

There's nothing on the My Organized Play page? If there is I couldn't find it.

Is there a list somewhere of boons and fame cost?

They are in the Guide to Organized Play.

Can't find it.

Robert Hetherington wrote:

Thomas Keller wrote:

There's nothing on the My Organized Play page? If there is I couldn't find it.

Is there a list somewhere of boons and fame cost?

They are in the Guide to Organized Play.

Can't find it.

It was removed to the retired rewards when Fame was first removed:

Faction Boons.

How do you purchase things with fame?

As others have pointed out, Fame was part of the season 1 rewards that are no longer being earned starting with season 2. Depending on how long you have been playing, you may not have a lot of Fame to spend.

What can be purchased depends on your Fame Tier as outlined in the Legacy Rewards section of the Guide.

To help, is there something you are looking for?

Thomas Keller wrote:

How do you purchase things with fame?

As others have pointed out, Fame was part of the season 1 rewards that are no longer being earned starting with season 2. Depending on how long you have been playing, you may not have a lot of Fame to spend.

What can be purchased depends on your Fame Tier as outlined in the Legacy Rewards section of the Guide.

To help, is there something you are looking for?

One character has 106, one has 74.

Not looking for anything in particular. Just wanted to use them for something useful before they're gone, if I can.

106 is improbably high but not totally impossible unless the character is lvl 9+ from applying AP/module credits especially with a second character at 70+

106 is improbably high but not totally impossible unless the character is lvl 9+ from applying AP/module credits especially with a second character at 70+

I would say surprisingly high rather than improbable, but you may want to have someone check your math.

26 scenarios @ 4 fame
13 Quests @ 1 fame
4 Faction meta rewards x 2 characters at @ 2 fame
1 module @ 12 fame
1 AP w/ 6 parts @ 12 fame each
4 repayable scenarios
= ~233 fame possible on 2 characters if you played everything that granted fame and got all the fame every time.

106 is improbably high but not totally impossible unless the character is lvl 9+ from applying AP/module credits especially with a second character at 70+

That's what it says on the My Organized Play page.

Robert Hetherington wrote:

106 is improbably high but not totally impossible unless the character is lvl 9+ from applying AP/module credits especially with a second character at 70+

That's what it says on the My Organized Play page.

Fame isn't tracked (correctly) on the Org Play page. What it shows there as fame is your total reputation. Reputation will almost always be higher than fame.

For example:
my -2001 has 104 total rep, but only ever earned 88 fame.
my -2002 has 72 total rep, but only ever earned 56 fame.

Thomas Keller wrote:

Robert Hetherington wrote:

106 is improbably high but not totally impossible unless the character is lvl 9+ from applying AP/module credits especially with a second character at 70+

That's what it says on the My Organized Play page.

Fame isn't tracked (correctly) on the Org Play page. What it shows there as fame is your total reputation. Reputation will almost always be higher than fame.

For example:
my -2001 has 104 total rep, but only ever earned 88 fame.
my -2002 has 72 total rep, but only ever earned 56 fame.

Okay, I'll have to check my chronicle sheets. I should still have a goodly amount. Honestly, the only thing that really appeals to me in that list are the hireling boons.

By the last time fame was recorded, I have 80 and 25.

As a word of caution, you can only slot 1 Hireling Boon per Adventure, so purchasing multiple different Hirelings has little use anymore.

You can take as many as you want, you just can only *benefit* from one. (So as soon as you use one, you lose access to the others for the rest of the session.)

Slot one. Benefit from one. Potato potato. Same word of caution.

Can I start a hireling at master level?

You start with the basic Hireling and upgrade it step by step.

You start with the basic Hireling and upgrade it step by step.

Yes, but can I do all the steps at once? Hireling, Expert Hireling, Professional Hireling and Master Hireling costs 26, which I have.

Sure, that is not a problem.

Nefreet wrote:

You start with the basic Hireling and upgrade it step by step.

Yes, but can I do all the steps at once? Hireling, Expert Hireling, Professional Hireling and Master Hireling costs 26, which I have.

Yes, provided you have the required reputation level for each stage.

And you use the previous tiers of Reputation, not the new ones.

And you use the previous tiers of Reputation, not the new ones.

Well, he has exactly 90 reputation with Verdant Wheel. That's tier 4 in the old system, but only tier 3("Admired") in the new system.

Nefreet wrote:

And you use the previous tiers of Reputation, not the new ones.

Well, he has exactly 90 reputation with Verdant Wheel. That's tier 4 in the old system, but only tier 3("Admired") in the new system.

Correct, so for Fame purchases he would be Tier 4.

Okay, I'm gonna write it up on my last Chronicle Sheet. Any suggestions for skills?

Yeah, the best use I've found for fame is getting to a Master hireling, which you'd have to wait until 120 reputation to get in the new system.

Getting multiple hirelings when you can't use fame for much else is better than nothing. You can wait until a relevant skill comes up in the scenario to decide which you're using (as I understand it). My Rogue now travels with members of his former circus troupe.

EDIT: Keep in mind that if you get Professional Hireling as well, then you're getting access to 2 lore skills in addition to the main skill for each hireling. Having 2 hirelings mean having 4 lores, which are much more likely to be things the rest of the group doesn't have covered, but also not as likely to need all of them in the same scenario.

Okay, I'm gonna write it up on my last Chronicle Sheet. Any suggestions for skills?

What skills don't you have?

You can wait until a relevant skill comes up in the scenario to decide which you're using (as I understand it).

This is correct.

Thomas Keller wrote:

Okay, I'm gonna write it up on my last Chronicle Sheet. Any suggestions for skills?

What skills don't you have?

Well, the two that seem to come up most often that he doesn't have are Medicine and Society. There's usually a healer of some type, but not having Society hurts sometimes. None of the skill feats for that seem useable though. Just looked at my sheet and he also doesn't have Crafting. That comes up fairly often.

Lore-wise, he has Goblin Lore, Swamp Lore, and Scouting Lore.

I have enough fame to get three hirelings fully statted. That's three skills, three skills feats and six lores.

I would consider picking medicine.

True, 2e has plenty of healing options: Divine and Primal casters can prep heal, Occult casters may have soothe, Alchemists might make elixirs, everybody can pick healing potions from school items (or buy them), and anyone can pick up medicine.
Sometimes though, you might end up in a party that has none or very little off-combat healing, and having a medicine hireling in your backpocket could be useful.

Another one is Survival. Not needed very often, but it also seems to be a kind of a rare skill to be picked. While you rarely need survival, it's one of those skills that when you do need it, consequences for not having it could be dire (such as not finding your way to your target and wasting precious hours, or getting totally lost!).

Society seems a pretty common skill and not as dangerous to be lacking, but crafting could be really useful in some situations.

What languages do hirelings speak?

Hirelings follow the same rules as PCs for languages. So if it is available to the PC it is avaialbe to the hireling.

I originally read the question as "What languages doe HALFINGS speak?". So my answer was going to really dumb.

I don't think you can just pick extra languages for a hireling by default. I assume they're Common only without something else. A Translator is a specific kind of hireling available to Grand Archive.

I don't know how Multilingual interacts with Professional Hireling. Presumably if they are trained in Society, they could take it, and then the only thing to fall back on is what Gary said. But can a hireling have a home region? Or is it based off of the character's Home Region? Probably the latter, even if it doesn't make sense for the hireling's backstory.

medicine + Assurance is pretty solid for OOC healing.

Society + Multilingual.

Craft + alchemical craft

would be my go to.

On a personal note, I hope players will not look allowing other players to use their skills, even if the hireling may be a little better. These hirelings should not be used to outshine the other characters.