Meet the Iconics: Quig

rknop wrote:

I'm realizing that I don't know who the Shobhad are.

Which makes me realize... is anybody doing a Starfinder Wiki that will be as useful a reference as the Pathfinder Wiki is?

Answer: Perhaps.

The Shobhad - Akhiton's resident 4-armed giant nomads armed with Raydium rifles. :) They are an homage to ERB's Green Martians, though culturally distinct.

I thought they were descendants of Shonuff, the first Shogun of Harlem.

A ysoki & a shobhad team-up? Sounds like a fun time.

Quig is pretty cool. Not what I expected.

Not a huge fan of the backstory this time around, as it left me feeling like I didn't really know Quig very well. After mulling over it for a while, here's my thought:

He arrived on the scene in time to see the bounty hunter tackle the fugitive and slap him in restraints. Flushed with adrenaline, Quig realized then and there that this was what he wanted to do for the rest of his life.

Why does he suddenly want to be a bounty hunter? Before this he was making friends, de-icing pipes and building robots in his spare time. I didn't get a sense that he was unsatisfied with that kind of life. So why does he suddenly decide he wants to be a bounty hunter? I don't have a clue what motivates Quig from this backstory.

In addition, I'm not really sure what kind of relationship Dhareen and Quig had. "Mutual respect" is vague and unexciting (no drama implied there), and tells me nothing about how and why they worked well together. Also the "Quig was sad when they had to split up" is similarly super vague. Why exactly was he sad?

This is in contrast with all the other iconics so far, who have had real (and strong) motivations baked into them.

Hold up a sec... Ikeshti? Do Lizardfolk have a new name for themselves in Starfinder? Or am I missing something?

Why does he suddenly want to be a bounty hunter? Before this he was making friends, de-icing pipes and building robots in his spare time. I didn't get a sense that he was unsatisfied with that kind of life. So why does he suddenly decide he wants to be a bounty hunter? I don't have a clue what motivates Quig from this backstory.

- Did he yearn for a more dangerous, exciting life?

"I just got f~%$ing shot... THAT'S AWESOME!"

I think of it like seeing a cop in action for the first time making you want to be one, but on Akiton, cops seem corrupt, thus bounty hunter.

Hold up a sec... Ikeshti? Do Lizardfolk have a new name for themselves in Starfinder? Or am I missing something?

It might be the name of a clan, or just be the native word for lizardfolk on Akiton. We know Akiton had unique red lizardfolk and unique red humans that didn't call themselves humans, so maybe the akiton lizardfolk don't think of themselves as lizardfolk.

"I just got f~%$ing shot... THAT'S AWESOME!"

I totally read that in Mr Torgues voice

Someone may, or may not, like Borderlands 2 over at the design team...

and I am very OK with that (mechromancer has a killer robot in that super fun FPS for those that don't know it...)

Now about Handsome Jack...

Someone may, or may not, like Borderlands 2 over at the design team...

and I am very OK with that (mechromancer has a killer robot in that super fun FPS for those that don't know it...)

Now about Handsome Jack...

And his Animal Companion, Butt Stallion too!

Half the fun of that game is the absolutely insane crap Jack (and of course the psychos) say.

I mean, light a psycho on fire and then hear "I smell...delicious!"

Hold up a sec... Ikeshti? Do Lizardfolk have a new name for themselves in Starfinder? Or am I missing something?

Akitonian lizardfolk do!

Don't wanna get lumped in with those backward mud ball stranded lizard folk, so of course they need their own name!

Quote:

"I just got f~%$ing shot... THAT'S AWESOME!"

I totally read that in Mr Torgues voice

Yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeees.

Don't wanna get lumped in with those backward mud ball stranded lizard folk, so of course they need their own name!

It's almost as if they're from another world or something!

"Eking" out a living? A ratfolk? Really? Isn't that a bit... on the nose?

:p

T'Ranchule wrote:

Hold up a sec... Ikeshti? Do Lizardfolk have a new name for themselves in Starfinder? Or am I missing something?

Akitonian lizardfolk do!

I can just see it now... adventurers from Golarion first get to Akiton and stumble into Ikeshti territory... they know they are being stalked by some alien horror when out of no where comes the booming voice!

"Prepare to feel the wrath of... THE LIZARDFOLK OF AKITON!"

"... wait, do you just like, call yourselves that as a normal reference point? Do the humans here refer to themselves as the humans of akiton? dont you have your own culture or language or history or anything?"

"SHUT UP AND GO AWAY!"

Rail guns have a special way of saying "hello and goodbye" all at once...

::Golarion Adventurer:: Oh, its just lizardfolk...everyone knows they are savages...hey, what is that weird thing it is holding...looks a bit like this thing I saw once in Numeria ::SPLAT::

::Ikeshti sniper with rail gun:: What was that about being "savage" monkey-meat...?

Quig struck me as an intelligible jawa... and that made me happy.

Hold up a sec... Ikeshti? Do Lizardfolk have a new name for themselves in Starfinder? Or am I missing something?

I always figured it was just that adventurers called them "Lizardfolk", and that they were never corrected. Or if they were corrected, the adventurers just didn't care. Probably because they were murderhobos and Lizardfolk are weird.

We know that that's canon for "Catfolk", because they like to keep their actual species name a secret. And then now Ratfolk are called Ysoki.

Fun fact: The word for "adventurer" in every monstrous language translates exactly to "murderhobofolk."

the robot is blurry. :-)

And the Iconics keep making me want to see them in action.

WELL DONE.

the robot is blurry. :-)

"Always in motion, is the hover drone... "

When you all see what we cooked up for the ikeshti in Alien Archive, you probably won't confuse them for Golarion lizardfolk ever again!

When you all see what we cooked up for the ikeshti in Alien Archive, you probably won't confuse them for Golarion lizardfolk ever again!

... Because they will be listed under "I" instead of "L"? :p

When you all see what we cooked up for the ikeshti in Alien Archive, you probably won't confuse them for Golarion lizardfolk ever again!

You heartless villains KNOW I'm already a subscriber, dammit! WHY MUST YOU TORMENT ME SO?!

When you all see what we cooked up for the ikeshti in Alien Archive, you probably won't confuse them for Golarion lizardfolk ever again!

What about the red "humans" of Akiton? Any more lore on them? I've been fascinated by them ever since they were first mentioned.

What kind of bounty do you 'capture' with a flamethrower?

The drone handle is a nice detail. I wonder if it could carry a Small-sized creature through the air.

I have it on good authority that Quigg can clip himself to that handle.

Amanuensis wrote:

What kind of bounty do you 'capture' with a flamethrower?

The drone handle is a nice detail. I wonder if it could carry a Small-sized creature through the air.

I have it on good authority that Quigg can clip himself to that handle.

Thinking about someone attached to a drone by single point sling... go ahead and try firing a gun like that, the move is called the "Death Blossom" i believe.

Quig appears to not only be shy part of an ear, but, looking closely, in between hand and leg, his tail appears to have a hole in it. Probably detachable.

Woran wrote:

Amanuensis wrote:

What kind of bounty do you 'capture' with a flamethrower?

The drone handle is a nice detail. I wonder if it could carry a Small-sized creature through the air.

I have it on good authority that Quigg can clip himself to that handle.

Thinking about someone attached to a drone by single point sling... go ahead and try firing a gun like that, the move is called the "Death Blossom" i believe.

Yakno he has a flamer.. He probably is quite alright with flailing a bit and just spraying everything in a panic but himself and his robot.

One thing... in the weapons reveal I sorta remember them saying heavy weapons were things like flame throwers and the like.

I wonder if his flamer is a bigger weapon, and mechanics just have special access to certain heavier weapon proficiencies. Or if his is smaller. or if he has the ability some other way.

Note.. I know its not called heavy or big weapons I just can't remember the name.

I thought there was a weapon group called "heavy"

Small Arms
Long Arms
Sniper Weapons
Heavy Weapons

Those have all been mentioned as weapon categories so far, havent they? (still annoyed that they use the term small arms for side arms... but at least it is in keeping with the tradition of making up new weapon terms or blissfully using the wrong term for the thing they are talking about.)

Speaking of his flamer, I find it odd that he's held up as, "The rat with the flamethrower " which implies that Mechanics are naturally proficient with them, since he's the iconic, but in the Starfinder reveal stream, when they killed the two orcs with the flamethrowers and were handing out the loot, the guy playing the mechanic didn't jump up and say, "I'll take one." Owen even made a comment to the effect of, "Oh right, none of you are proficient. Well, if you had a soldier, he'd be really happy right now." Implying that only Soldiers are natively proficient with heavy weapons.

Maybe if Owen's around, he can give us a yay or nae on whether mechanics get heavy weapons, and they all just forgot at the table.

Speaking of his flamer, I find it odd that he's held up as, "The rat with the flamethrower " which implies that Mechanics are naturally proficient with them, since he's the iconic, but in the Starfinder reveal stream, when they killed the two orcs with the flamethrowers and were handing out the loot, the guy playing the mechanic didn't jump up and say, "I'll take one." Owen even made a comment to the effect of, "Oh right, none of you are proficient. Well, if you had a soldier, he'd be really happy right now." Implying that only Soldiers are natively proficient with heavy weapons.

Maybe if Owen's around, he can give us a yay or nae on whether mechanics get heavy weapons, and they all just forgot at the table.

That may be, another option could be a racial thing (ice dweller, born and raised at the polar caps, start out with flamer proficincy?), or a class choice that mechanics can either gain proficiency or much like the Operative getting a "slotless" cloaking field, the mechanic might have a "expermintal/junker" weapon option they gain from class that acts as any one other kind of weapon from any table that is level tiered or levle -2 or some such. i would hope at least that an engineer can tinker up some kind of unique weapon somehow...

Or, possibly mechanics are proficient with any equipment they make for themselves.

Or, more likely there is a difference between a de-icing flamethrower and a heavy plasma thrower which is what the half orcs had. Owen said that did 2d10 half fire half electric, which seems different than a flamethrower.

One handed flamethrower (flame pistol).

Two handd flamethrower (flame rifle).

I go with Fardragons Theory

Small flamethrowers for everyone, you never know when you run in oversized cockroaches

and heavy military flamethrowers in case you got to clear out a bunker or something

I go with Fardragons Theory

Small flamethrowers for everyone, you never know when you run in oversized cockroaches

and heavy military flamethrowers in case you got to clear out a bunker or something

Considering they have an electric pistol, it makes sense to have pistol flavors in all the base damage types.

Small flamethrowers for everyone

Best. Campaign slogan. Ever.

I really do hope that you can get prof easier in general . Looks like it might be... Though you also need to get the lower prof first yeah? small arms to get long arms, long arms to get sniper? sniper to get heavy? (though that seems odd.. I could see long arms being the preq of sniper or heavy though).
I just dread the idea of having to spend a feat for each individual prof like what occurred with Exotic. If it is like that. I'm hoping its at least a spiral "get a few of them at once" sorta thing.
I need to hunt down the info again...

I'm gonna be curious when I can see Quig's sheet sometime.

I wonder if the Bounty Hunter theme provides easy nonlethal options, explaining how Quig can get away with his weapon choice.

Heavy weapon have proficiency in longarms as a prerequisite, and longarms and proficiency in small arms as a prerequisite.

Sniper weapons are their own proficiency, with no prerequisite.

There was debate about whether longarms should have a prereq of small arms, and there's no point in rehashing it. This is where we came down on it, for various reasons. And all the existing classes have small arms proficiency, in any case.

And all the existing classes have small arms proficiency, in any case.

There's a T-Rex joke in there somewhere.

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I really like Quig, he reminds me a bit of Farscape's Chiana in being an inquisitive, highly impulsive, pragmatic survivor. Hopefully, he'll soon add a "cupholder" to his DRD drone 1812 Scout for Chk Chk's cradle-jar.

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:

And all the existing classes have small arms proficiency, in any case.

There's a T-Rex joke in there somewhere.

but its just out of reach

Mr. Pilkington, Philosoraptor wrote:

Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:

And all the existing classes have small arms proficiency, in any case.

There's a T-Rex joke in there somewhere.

but its just out of reach

If you're happy and you know it, clap your... oh, wait.

Heavy weapon have proficiency in longarms as a prerequisite, and longarms and proficiency in small arms as a prerequisite.

Sniper weapons are their own proficiency, with no prerequisite.

There was debate about whether longarms should have a prereq of small arms, and there's no point in rehashing it. This is where we came down on it, for various reasons. And all the existing classes have small arms proficiency, in any case.

Thankies~

Hmm, heavy weapns needing long arms makes sense. I realize I was thinking of very specific kinds of heavy weapons and not the main colloquial version

Hopefully, he'll soon add a "cupholder" to his DRD drone 1812 Scout for Chk Chk's cradle-jar.

YES.

Heavy weapon have proficiency in longarms as a prerequisite, and longarms and proficiency in small arms as a prerequisite.

Sniper weapons are their own proficiency, with no prerequisite.

There was debate about whether longarms should have a prereq of small arms, and there's no point in rehashing it. This is where we came down on it, for various reasons. And all the existing classes have small arms proficiency, in any case.

There you have it! The offical cannon answer!

I'll show myself out...