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If people are making a gargantuan request list, here are mine as I pre-order the gargantuans from my FLGS and pick up minis as needed:
Tyrannosaurus (It indeed would be cool not to have to use a toy.)
Elementals (The four basic types)
Linnorm (Any type would be good, or just a general one.)
Carnivorous Blob (I know it's normally bigger, but a gargantuan one with stuff in it like the recently released cube would be awesome.)
Ravener
Warsworn (I think Wizkids could make a great pose out of it.)
Quanitum Golem (Inner Sea Bestiary, perhaps too niche.)
Megaprimatus Ape (Again, it would be cool not to use a toy, but I get why this would not necessarily not make it.)
Devastator
Wyrmwraith
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There are no gargantuan Elementals in Pathfinder (or D&D).
Or maybe the Primordials are in 5e, i don't know that.
None the less they would look cool and i would buy them.
They could be Giant or Advanced creatures.
Brinebones the Skeletal Dragon from Skull & Shackles differs so little from a Ravener (only the translucent green energy between the ribs and in mouth and eyes) that it makes little sense to make one as long as that one is not sold out.
A translucent Slime with a compartment for up to huge minis) is a great idea!
The later could hold other minis from the owners collection and would look different everytime.
Just make sure it is translucent enough.
A light red coloration is propably the best choice too.
Lastly a plant creature of gargantuan size (the bodythief being a great visual) would fill a much needed space. It also has a great visual appeal sculpt- and colorwise.
Also we need a four-legged creature without wings (the Tarasque the most obvious choice) as stand-in for other creatures of it's type.
We have a gargantuan humanoid (Rune Giant), dragons, undead (Brinebones), vermin (Deskari).
The Shemhazian could pass for most animals or some magical beasts.
A worm-/snakelike creature is needed and a plant.
And a fish-like creature with a mouth big enough to swallow some mediums.
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The "Dancing Girl" has just sold out!
What makes this special is that it is the first COMMON mini to sell out.
The 15 others that have sold out are all rares.
That means it should have sold 4-5 times as many copies as the rest.
Impressive.
By now 16 of 50 (i don't count the replacement minis, the bar and the bed repaint) are gone - that's 32% - almost a third!
That proves the popularity of both dressing pieces and good-painted humanoid minis from the core races.
Very cool.
The update is up.
Just went and got more of the dressing pieces. A little disappointed only 1 is allowed, but I understand the reasoning for it with how quickly they sell out, and that they are pieces that multiples usually make sense (i.e. crates, barrels, etc.)
I think it just shows further that making a ‘dressing pack’ would probably sell well.
Got the two I wanted from the new sale, although I think we crashed the site doing it. It was a nervy few minutes as I waited for the email that everything worked while the site spun and spun and spun.
I had already ordered the dressing so couldn't order anymore. So, I did next best thing. Got some extra copies of the minis that I wanted: Orc Rider, Goblin Pilot, Dancing Girl, Ranzak and Cube.
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In regards to Huge size miniatures:
I was wondering if it might be possible to do something akin to the old DDM Giants of Legend set and make the booster pack larger with a single Huge figure instead of the single Large we have with the current set up? With the change in the way the miniatures are packed—the rigid plastic holding the Large figure and the medium/small figures being individually bubble-wrapped and put in the voids created by the plastic holder—this would simply be an upsize of what we have now.
Take a dozen or so Huge sculpts—with some being rare—and up the price a bit for that one set. Would the size difference screw up shipping too much or would the price increase be exorbitant? Just spit balling ideas here, because the only weakness I can see in this line is the lack of Huge size figurines.
EDIT: Oh, and my suggestion would be for only one set like this at first and not a permanent change. One more expensive set every now and again would be preferable to a permanent up-tick.
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In regards to Huge size miniatures:
I was wondering if it might be possible to do something akin to the old DDM Giants of Legend set and make the booster pack larger with a single Huge figure instead of the single Large we have with the current set up? With the change in the way the miniatures are packed—the rigid plastic holding the Large figure and the medium/small figures being individually bubble-wrapped and put in the voids created by the plastic holder—this would simply be an upsize of what we have now.
Take a dozen or so Huge sculpts—with some being rare—and up the price a bit for that one set. Would the size difference screw up shipping too much or would the price increase be exorbitant? Just spit balling ideas here, because the only weakness I can see in this line is the lack of Huge size figurines.
EDIT: Oh, and my suggestion would be for only one set like this at first and not a permanent change. One more expensive set every now and again would be preferable to a permanent up-tick.
+2 for HUGES - i would order 2 cases even if the booster price would increase to between $20 - $30.
The Rise of the Runelords Huge boosters were the first and last try from paizo and wizkids in that direction.
They were $25 and a case held 6 huge boosters with one of 4 different huge minis in each without other minis.
There were a lot of things wrong with that method.
Some suggestions to make the set sell better:
1. Only make 1 huge booster type that contains 1 huge and a few small and medium (or large) minis.
2. Make the set smaller. 8 different huge minis and between 24 and 32 small and medium ones in all.
3. Make 2 rarities for the huges: 4
common and 4 uncommon ones.
4. Select interesting creatures that everybody wants.
The 4 elementals out of clear plastic at common rarity are both cheap to produce (no painting neccessary) and no one will be overly sad to get 2 or 3 of the same.
Rares should be creatures like the Frogemoth or Remorhaz - cool but one is enough.
Maybe combine it with some small and medium dragon minis - people love them and many would buy a booster for them alone (make them uncommon not rare so that 2-3 bricks consisting of 6 boosters each or a case consisting of 4 bricks or 24 boosters should get you a complete set).
5. Call it Elemental Fire or Dragons & Titans or something that hints at whats inside.
Just my 2 cents, thx for reading it.
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The bed is the only dressing piece that is not yet sold out again!
And i think that is only because there are 2 versions available and that it still will sell out before all the Rusty Dragon Inn singles will be taken off the site at midnight on sunday.
I am glad this stuff sells so well because that means that we get more sets in the future with something different for every taste in it.
Dressing pieces for some, humanoid PCs and NPCs for others, monsters, terrain sets and Gargantuan creatures and so on.
The Battles line is healthy and in the right hanfs.
I know it has been said many times already, but please consider a fixed figure dungeon dressing set. I'd much rather give you money for a static set then pay exorbitant prices on ebay! Loved the bar so much that I ordered a second one. These pieces make encounters way more fun for my players who throw barrels donkey kong style, flip tables to hide behind, stack crates to make a stair case, etc. I can't get enough of them! If there was a boxed set with a draft horse pulling a cart full of barrels I'd buy multiples. Or a set with beds with chests at the end of them with an included "barracks" map I'd have to have it! I love these minis, but I just can't get the quantities I need in random blind packs.
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I absolutely agree that we need boxed sets of dressing pieces.
Other companys (mantic games, dwarven forge etc) are doing them more and more.
And now that the time has come that Paizo doesn't sell dressing singles from Dungeons Deep (all sold out) and The Rusty Dragon Inn (same) anymore, i don't see them hurting themselves with the move.
Imagine a box like Iconic Heroes with having the 5 dressing pieces from Dungeons Deep for $30 or the 6 pieces from TRDI in a box for $35.
I can't imagine them not selling out.
And the sculpts already exist.
Just continue to make 6 new dressing pieces for each new minis set and offer them as collectors set a few month later.
Cases have sold out?
Cases have sold out?
Not quite. We do have some minimal stock left in our warehouse. Though, we have ended the sales of singles through paizo.com (with the exception of the Bed repaint and reissues of Feiya and King Irovetti).
Cases where shown as "unavailable" when I posted that.
just remembered:
I'd love to see a Latern Archeon in the future.
That little laser beamer is my favourite monster to summon.
... From what i am hearing this could be the 2nd set to actually sell out (the 1st being set 1: Heroes and Monsters)!
That would certainly bode well for "Accessory" type pieces and support NPCs, since this set was full of them.
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To anyone who didn't get the Quivering Cube:
There will be a "Gelatinous Cube" in april's "D&D Icons of the Realm set 4: Monster Menagerie".
From the looks of it (an ad in GTM #190) it can hold a miniatute inside of it.
There is a scan of the page on http://plasticrypt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5619&st=0&sk=t &sd=a&sid=a1ede2f4401daf823a5ab39f6ccf0f7b&start=45
Also 5 minis are playable characters from the Sword Coast Legends video game.
Along with a Bulette and a Displacer Beast.
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Knowing the D&D minis the Pathfinder Quivering Cube is easier to find inside a boostet (even at "rare" rarity) than the D&D one.
I ordered a case of both but with my last Pathfinder case (Dungeons Deep) i got every mini but the "Veiled Master" and with my last D&D case (Rage of Demons) i was missing the Blink Dog, Mind Flayer Lich, Rust Monster, Gold Dragon, Invisible Human Wizard, Invisible Blink Dog, Shadow Gold Dragon and Shadow Beholder.
I like the idea of 2 Huge as incensive
Top things i'd like
Hydra
Other major demon lords, devils Duke or empyreal lords.
Elementals, for these I also like Marco's idea of making them uncommon in boosters of a huge set.
Also, not huge but large, I found that one important fiend is missing in the Pit fiend. And I may well need one to run a recent AP module...
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I received my set today and just wanted to point out some things that nobody mentioned before:
There are some minis that can be opened and closed (without being damaged)!
1. The most easy one: BARREL.
just take it in your hands and pull the top (the end without the tiny white "2016 Wizkids/NECA Paizo Inc. China" copyright text) straight off with force.
It worked with both barrels in the Tavern Bar set and the one in the case booster.
Depending on how much paint or glue is between the seams it is real easy or a little harder.
Interior walls are ptetty thick but the head and upper body of most medium minis fit inside. Sadly no small mini from this set fits wholly inside because of outsstretched arms but it could work with others.
I can close them again and it holds even when the barrel falls down.
Just do this if you want to put something inside like the bottles from the Tavern Bar.
2. I unseated the "Orc on Dire Wolf" really easily. It has a hollow rear end where a lttle knob on the Dire Wolf's back goes in.
It is best to wiggle the Orc a little untill you hear the sound of the glue breaking and then gently pull the orc straight off to the top.
It holds just fine if you pop it back ontop again but you can now place him onto either the "Riding horse", "Draft Horse", "Gorgon", "Wagon" or "Cart".
The best thing is: because of the pose he even fits perfectly on a stool at the bar! :-)
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Continuing:
You also have a single Dir Wolf with a saddle now.
You could pull the base of another mini and let it ride but i didn't try that.
3. The Gelatinous Cube (Difficulty medium).
Again i did this mostly with my hands (and by putting my nails between the base and the clear plastic and wiggle a bit.
Be careful not to break a nail!
In the end i had to put a flat screwdriver between one side of the base and the cube.
Note that the side with the round wooden shield inside and the opposite one with 2 skulls have little knobs going from the middle of the cube into the base!
Thats how you can put them back together (holding just fine again).
Now you have essentially 2 minis!
The top cube part fits over 2 small minis and most medium ones (some are too tall) and the Riding Horse.
The bottom part with the base is a second blob of Ooze!
It looks very cool with 5 skulls, a wooden shield, 2 sword, an axe and some bones in it - i like it better than the normal cube version.
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4. The CRATE (very hard)
This was not possible without tools and lots of time.
It propably is not worth it because i damaged the outside of my crate considerably with a tongs.
I did it to proove to myself that it could be done mostly.
I advise you AGAINST trying it.
The room inside is smaller than inside the barrel and no mini will fit inside it.
Resume:
I wish Wizkids would leave the glue away on some dressing pieces and miniatures and just leave it at the knobs (which hold the other piece just fine).
Remember the Sarkophagus from "Dungeons Deep"?
That would't have been as much fun glued closed in comparison to the cool openable version with mummy that we got (thx again, Eric).
There is definetly more possible with future pieces.
I received my set today and just wanted to point out some things that nobody mentioned before ...
I've put the "can be disassembled" in a review of the dire wolf and cube ;-)
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I received my set today and just wanted to point out some things that nobody mentioned before ...I've put the "can be disassembled" in a review of the dire wolf and cube ;-)
Yeah, i just read that again, you were the only one (i think). ;-)
You mentioned you need magnets to attach the base again - did you break the knobs?
I could put the base and cube back together with no problems.
I wrote the above post into the blog to make people aware of the possibility of dis- and reassembling some pieces (the goblin vulture pilot is propably the only other one - i don't want to take the parrot off Ranzak's shoulder but it is easily possible).
Of course you propably know all that. ;-)
The cubes clear knobs broke at the base, both of the cube and the contents.
The Vulture pilot is too tightly glued and the parrot is actually the same piece as the goblins arm/shoulder.
I've got the falcon and owl to stand in for Vulture and Parrot, should I ever need them.
Cases have sold out?Not quite. We do have some minimal stock left in our warehouse. Though, we have ended the sales of singles through paizo.com (with the exception of the Bed repaint and reissues of Feiya and King Irovetti).
How low is not quite?
I had to cancel my sub and was planning on picking back up before the next set, but do I need to hustle?
Money is kind of tight, but I might be able to charge it if the other option is out of stock :(
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Cases have sold out?Not quite. We do have some minimal stock left in our warehouse. Though, we have ended the sales of singles through paizo.com (with the exception of the Bed repaint and reissues of Feiya and King Irovetti).How low is not quite?
I had to cancel my sub and was planning on picking back up before the next set, but do I need to hustle?
Money is kind of tight, but I might be able to charge it if the other option is out of stock :(
Cases are really hard to pinpoint for determining this and I don't feel like I can give a reasonably accurate estimate. It could be that most people that were going to get one, have gotten them and we have the remaining sit for a while, or it could be that as people get tax refunds ('tis the season in the U.S.) they decide to go for it and nab the remaining stock. Really hard to say.
If you want it for sure, then you should buy now. The longer you wait, the greater the chance that it will go out of stock. Note that neither situation is guaranteed.
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Win, my job announced voluntary overtime today! Man that worked out. Gonna work 24 hours of overtime over this week and next and be able to buy this. Putting it on credit card now, will pay off right after payday :)
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In my opinion, the Rusty Dragon Inn is the 4th best set (out of 10 released so far).
It is however the set with the best human faces!
Also it seems to be the set that sold best, as it took less than 2 month to sell out of single boosters and bricks!
I expect this set to sell out of cases soon.
This is good news for Paizo (and wizkids) and i am happy for them.
This also means that i have to order a case of the next set asap or run the risk of not getting it.
As set 4 of D&D Icons has a heavy focus on creatures (all larges will be "monsters" and so far only 6 minis will be PCs) that leaves some speculation about the content of PB#11.
I for one would like to see a mix of monsters (like a medium or large crab), monster races (drow and urdefhan from the Monster Codex), NPCs (from the NPC Codex), playable exotic races (Kitsune and another from Advanced Race Guide) and the usual mix of dressing pieces.
What kind of mix do you want to see in a set?
Also it seems to be the set that sold best, as it took less than 2 month to sell out of single boosters and bricks!
It's clearly been well received. However, remember that in this case Paizo are a retailer rather than the publisher/producer, so "selling out" means something different and could have many explanations.
I think it's worth noting that this is also the first set where Paizo have adopted their new singles policy. That could well have coincided with an overall smaller order from Wizkids. (Perhaps they want to carry less stock of boosters and bricks as well as fewer singles).
Of course, Paizo could have ordered more than the historical average, I have no idea - I just think we should interpret the 'selling out' fact cautiously until they sell out at the distributor level.
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Also it seems to be the set that sold best, as it took less than 2 month to sell out of single boosters and bricks!It's clearly been well received. However, remember that in this case Paizo are a retailer rather than the publisher/producer, so "selling out" means something different and could have many explanations.
I think it's worth noting that this is also the first set where Paizo have adopted their new singles policy. That could well have coincided with an overall smaller order from Wizkids. (Perhaps they want to carry less stock of boosters and bricks as well as fewer singles).
Of course, Paizo could have ordered more than the historical average, I have no idea - I just think we should interpret the 'selling out' fact cautiously until they sell out at the distributor level.
Of course you are right, Steve.
But i also based this assumption on the fact, that my local dealer in germany can't backorder more bricks and cases for me and that a lot of people on the internet said that their local store sold out of them very soon.It could also be that wizkids produced less minis of this series or that the fact that paizo had to break open more boosters to offer more singles had some effect.
By the way: have you seen the new d&d minis?
Head over to the "magnificent 7 of set 6" blog where i posted a link.
Selling out at multiple sites/stores is definitely significant (it would be hard to imagine Wizkids scaling back production - unless they were really nervous about dungeon dressing which would have been odd to me).
So fingers crossed there has been a surge in demand!
I've been keeping an eye out for the D&D sculpts where I find them (or more accurately, where you find them and then post them here for us). I'm really looking forward to the treant. :)
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Enough of this other minis line! If they don't do their own advertising, why should Paizo do it for them? Instead, tell us something about the next Pathfinder set! I'm really excited about it after "The Rusty Dragon Inn", which was amazing.
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Enough of this other minis line! If they don't do their own advertising, why should Paizo do it for them?
Because Paizo sell them and advertising the range of products you sell is a good idea.
Because if Wizkids do well overall it means more resources are available for the PF Battles line.
Because Paizo is a community of people with disparate interests and many who are interested in PF Battles are also interested in D&D Icons of the Realms.
Because it's quite likely that the production schedule of one and the design choices/makeup of one has some impact on the other.
Lots of reasons, really.
I still think WotC has to be considered a competitor vying for our PPM $. As consumers, sure we want to see all sources do well. But as a vendor footing the bill for the website, I can't see this being a favorable action.
I appreciate the strong communication that Paizo maintains with its customer base, and I really don't want to do anything that might hurt that. If you want to talk about the competitor, there are other more suitable places to do so. Be courteous.
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If Paizo hasn't stated an objection to mentioning complementary products, I don't think anyone else should be doing so on their behalf. I get Paizo emails mentioning 5e as well as D&D minis, so I don't see any issues with mentioning those products (esp. for those figures for creatures for whom they own the IP - mind flayers, beholders, etc.)
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We certainly don't mind people talking about WizKids' other minis lines.
But what they're doing in those lines today—even the D&D line—has about as much impact on what goes into the Pathfinder Battles line as what they did in the old D&D minis line. That is, Erik is always trying to make sure that we have a decent number of minis in each set that have never been done in prepainted plastic, and their new lines figure into that just as well as the old lines.
But keep in mind that we don't get advance info on what they're doing—we learn the specifics of what's in future D&D sets only when Wizards and WizKids make that public. So by the time we find out what's in an upcoming D&D set, we've probably already finalized the lists for the next two Battles sets.
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I don't think you need to worry too much - Wizards seem very keen to use their IP restricted monsters (like illithids, beholders and what-not) so with luck many of them won't have been viable PF Battles contenders anyhow.
We certainly don't mind people talking about WizKids' other minis lines.
But what they're doing in those lines today—even the D&D line—has about as much impact on what goes into the Pathfinder Battles line as what they did in the old D&D minis line. That is, Erik is always trying to make sure that we have a decent number of minis in each set that have never been done in prepainted plastic, and their new lines figure into that just as well as the old lines.
Although there may not be much impact creatively, it isn't hard to imagine that some decisions made pertaining to one line (like the delay in the D&D set by two months) are influenced by the other line. It seems eminently plausible that the decision to delay the Icons of the Realms release was due to the delay in the PFBattles line - after all, it would hardly have been good business for Wizkids to have released two such similar products in the same month.
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Hm. So that means that if Wizards makes a particular sort of mini, Paizo becomes far less likely to make that sort in the future?
That's kind of disappointing. I can barely afford the Battles line, let alone have to buy both. :/
It's not so much Erik saying "Wizards released an X, so let's not do an X" as it is "There have already been a lot of Xs in prepainted plastic, so let's do a Y instead." Or "There have been a lot of Xs with swords—let's do an X with a bow."
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It seems eminently plausible that the decision to delay the Icons of the Realms release was due to the delay in the PFBattles line - after all, it would hardly have been good business for Wizkids to have released two such similar products in the same month.
I can't say for sure, but I'd imagine that cascading delays like that likely have as much to do with factory throughput as marketing choice.