Down On Your Luck, Friend?

You can make a single ranged attack with a coin as part of casting this spell.

This is awesome! I really wish that magic stone had something similar, since the extra action to actually use the stone makes it so disadvantageous to use in combat.

I love the scaling mechanic as well. Very nice!

...and with that I just started my subscription to this again... This is a cool spell.

Would have been a cool investigator spell too...

It's an alchemist spell, so it's an investigator spell.

I'm not quite certain which ridiculous mental image is more relevant to this conceptually wonderful and mechanically well-crafted spell:

* Upon a critical hit, ahem, "MONEY, SON!"

or...

* Any reference to the gold goblin in the Diablo games.

As for the spell itself, I actually like it best for Unchained Rogues that take the Major Magic Rogue Talent. Being able to access dependable ranged weaponry, several times a day, all without having to carry bows/crossbows and the like, is quite nice and flavorful. It is not overly powerful, while conceivably useful in several different contexts.

I could imagine myself having to seriously consider choosing between this and "Protection from Evil" and the other longstanding 1st level options. All in all, well done!

I suspect this will be a popular spell - but also one that may occasionally get abused by people forgetting to note the costs of the coins (and/or tracking their change accurately...

As a GM I would also require someone casting this spell to have ahead of time defined the coins they keep on their person (assuming they may want to use the Platinum effects I'd want to see how many platinum, gold etc coins they keep ahead of time.

So who says you can't solve problems by throwing money at them?

Sorry, but somebody had to say it.

Would you add you strength mod to the attack, given that they're described as throwing weapons? by attack I mean damage of course.

Would you add you strength mod to the attack, given that they're described as throwing weapons? by attack I mean damage of course.

They can be "used as" simple throwing weapons, that largely determines proficiency (sorcerers yes, wizards no). However they "gain the velocity of a bullet" when thrown, do bullet damage types, hit like bullets in the first range increment, and the spell doesn't say they are "treated as" thrown weapons.

What's a lamplighter investigator?

Most excellent spell! That aside, I really enjoyed the way this preview was presented. I love the whole narrative approach.

"Booker, catch!"

It's just like (as in, might easily be a ripoff of) the Bullet spell in TORG, where you've got mages carrying paper rolls full of quarters/shillings/francs/yen/whatever around just for this spell.

"Hello Bob!"
{casts spell}
"Goodbye Bob! Best dollar eighty I ever spent."

I feel like this spell wouldn't make it to PFS, which is sad because I have a thematic Bard that would love this.

It's a shame that this doesn't have a material component of a vial of steel shavings.

I note there's no psychic caster on that list.
Will we be seeing support psychic classes in splatbooks anytime soon?

I note there's no psychic caster on that list.

Will we be seeing support psychic classes in splatbooks anytime soon?

If Occult Origins does not provide a lot of that, then there has been some serious false advertising for that book.

After that is out -- we should probably see as much support for those classes as we are now seeing for the hybrid classes in the Advanced Class Guide.

Still trying to get my head around the idea of an alchemist spell with only an "S" component. :)

What's a lamplighter investigator?

I posted some info about that archetype here.

It's a shame that this doesn't have a material component of a vial of steel shavings.

So first off your comment is awesome, I was here to make a much less awesome variant of it.

But it also raises an interesting point. The spell has no material components, but the coins are a material component of the spell.

Illeist wrote:

It's a shame that this doesn't have a material component of a vial of steel shavings.

So first off your comment is awesome, I was here to make a much less awesome variant of it.

But it also raises an interesting point. The spell has no material components, but the coins are a material component of the spell.

The coins are the target, not a component, same as with the Magic Stone spell.

Now that there's an actual Gil Toss spell, I'll have to find a new way to refer to poison builds. :P

So, how much Steel do I need to burn to do that coinshot?

Galnörag wrote:

Illeist wrote:

It's a shame that this doesn't have a material component of a vial of steel shavings.

So first off your comment is awesome, I was here to make a much less awesome variant of it.

But it also raises an interesting point. The spell has no material components, but the coins are a material component of the spell.

The coins are the target, not a component, same as with the Magic Stone spell.

Does casting Bull's Strength consume your Fighter as a material component?

But the coins are consumed/destroyed by the spell, the fighter is not.

shaventalz wrote:

Galnörag wrote:

Illeist wrote:

It's a shame that this doesn't have a material component of a vial of steel shavings.

So first off your comment is awesome, I was here to make a much less awesome variant of it.

But it also raises an interesting point. The spell has no material components, but the coins are a material component of the spell.

The coins are the target, not a component, same as with the Magic Stone spell.

Does casting Bull's Strength consume your Fighter as a material component?

But the coins are consumed/destroyed by the spell, the fighter is not.

No, it breaks as part of the attack. If you let the spell run out without throwing the coins, you've still got them.

Like the fighter, they only break if you throw them at something.

If they were consumed as part of spellcasting, you'd only get the single attack granted during spellcasting - the other two coins would be gone by next turn.

Like the fighter, they only break if you throw them at something.

You're building your fighters wrong, the only thing that should be breaking is whatever you throw him at!!

Makes me want to break out Final Fantasy 6!

Best thing in the book for me: Magus archer archetype. It takes what Myrmidon was trying to do, and makes it work. Now for the massive retraining cost to my pfs character...

Clearly the Gold Baron was here... He strikes yet again!

I note there's no psychic caster on that list.

Will we be seeing support psychic classes in splatbooks anytime soon?

Due to our required lead time, Occult Origins is the first Player Companion that we could add any psychic support to. After that, we'll support the occult classes as and when we are available.

Psyched. Looks like a worthy follow up to Heroes of the Wild.

I actually don't think there's any problem with allowing strength bonuses on the damage. Compare it with magic missile. Assuming you use copper coins (i.e. practically no material component), the spell does equal damage at level 2 only. At every other level, magic missile does more damage AND is an auto-hit, AND at a longer range. With some effort, you might be able to make this spell worthwhile, but without the strength damage bonus, it's going to be difficult to find a reason to use this spell apart from when the target specifically has a shield spell active.

Unfortunately, Eldritch Archer didn't make the cut and isn't allowed in PFS.

Unfortunately, Eldritch Archer didn't make the cut and isn't allowed in PFS.

Aww, too bad! That looked very flavorful!

I'm also disappointed that Coin Shot isn't PFS legal. The best spell in years banned. :(

I'm also disappointed that Coin Shot isn't PFS legal. The best spell in years banned. :(

Love this spell! If you are willing to spend the cash, you get more out of it--a built in limiter right there! I think it is fantastic.

I also love the Lamplighter archetype. It replaces some mediocre abilities for some really interesting and thematic spell-like abilities and initiative bonuses! I am going to play an investigator for the very first time.