GM Rewards

Monday, February 10, 2014

Season 5 is nearly halfway done. That means we've posted faction head letters (stickied) in the Faction Talk section of the Pathfinder Society Organized Play messageboard. We'll also be sending out the email update to registered Pathfinder Society players as an additional heads-up, and we're frequently exploring other ways to get the word out.

Over the past three seasons, the Pathfinder Society campaign has published special scenarios that are exclusive to 4-star GMs, 5-star GMs, Venture Captains, and Venture Lieutenants—both to reward our top judges and to incentivize others to GM more and earn those stars. When Pathfinder Society Scenario #2–EX: The Midnight Mauler first came out in early 2011, the campaign had one 5-star GM, about half a dozen 4-star GMs, and 18 newly minted Venture Captains. We've since grown to over 50 5-star GMs, more than 150 4-star GMs, and 345 Venture Captains and Venture Lieutenants! Rather impressive!

Since then, we've introduced quite a few new GM rewards that continue to reward and incentivize the campaign's excellent volunteers to keep sharing their hobby with others: limited replay and the star bonus on "shirt re-rolls." Today we're announcing both a new reward and a change to how we're handling the exclusive scenario this year.

The Exclusive

This year we're releasing The Ruins of Bonekeep, Part 1: The Silent Grave as an exclusive scenario for qualifying GMs, who can now run the adventure anywhere. These GMs should see the scenario in their downloads early this week. Keep in mind that when qualifying for one's fifth star, all Ruins of Bonekeep adventures contribute to a GM's 10 required Exclusive or Special events.

GM Star Chronicle

Back when Mike first became Campaign Coordinator, I remember sending him an elaborate proposal for a GM reward system. Back then it was clunky, required heavy IT support, and accurately reflected how new I was to booncraft, so the idea faded from memory. We recently rediscovered those old plans, blew off the dust, and (with the help of some clever Venture Captains and Venture Lieutenants) revised the concept for distribution. In addition to being available for download from this blog, we will add these to the Free Products page in the next day or so.

The GM Star Chronicle sheet is a one-page reward that provides benefits that scale with a player's stars and a character's level. Each represents a character's tutelage and special training with one of the three Masters: Aram Zey, Kreighton Shaine, or Marcos Farabellus. When you meet both criteria for a boon (such as the GM having 3 stars and the character being level 5+), you can skip a Day Job roll or spend 1 Prestige Point to train with your patron and gain that boon's benefits. At this time, each GM can only select and assign one such Chronicle sheet. The exception to this limit is a 5-star GM, who can select and assign an additional Chronicle sheet to a different character for each additional 50 tables of GM credit he or she earns (two sheets at 200 games, three sheets at 250, et cetera).

Download your own GM Star Chronicle today! - (172 KB zip/PDF)

I'm excited to hear what new characters these inspire and how existing characters might connect with these eminent instructors.

John Compton
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Thod wrote:

There seems to be a lot of discussion here - especially about Bonekeep - so lets add my take:

The boon - haven't seen it yet but people seem exited. Also a nice addition is that you can add a second one for every 50 credits beyond 150 - I'm close to 200 and suddenly the 200 mark becomes something to track.

Bonekeep - I'm in the group of people who avoided it so far - but I'm actually exited that it will be available. Please let me explain:

Bonekeep isn't my style of play that I normally do. I was at one convention that offered it and avoided it both to GM and to play. There were enough 'enthusiasts' who queued up already - so I was happy to give my place to someone else and play a normal scenario.

Having said this - I do have at least one character I would like to try in this adventure - a barbarian with lots of feats that only kick in at negative HP and that have hardly ever been triggered. With enough prestige and knowing what I'm up against I'm intrigued to give it a try.

The change now makes it more likely I can try this at a small convention or with a hand picked group of players. It also means I can offer it at a small convention to a group I feel are up to it / want to experience it.

Here in the UK there have been not many conventions that would have qualified. The local style at the wargame club was to make up characters and get them killed. This is antithesis to developing them - like I think PFS should encourage - but once and again it is nice to have the option.

And that is the important part - having the option !!

I did prep 4-Ex for my home group - and pulled it last minute as I didn't feel they were up to it. Could have been the specific day with only limited players / weak players - but after prepping I felt - that will likely result in a group disappointed.

What has this to do with Bonekeep? As I said above - I have the option !! I can offer it if I feel I have the right group who enjoys it - and that is great. But I don't feel forced.

Overall I feel sorry for Mike. The whole PFS has grown to a size that makes it difficult to appeal to all fringes and play styles. There will be times you like something more - there will be times you like something less.

But please never forget that Mike tries hard and how much PFS has given us in regard to fun times at the table - otherwise we wouldn't be discussing here.

Maybe it can't be always what you want. With Bonekeep there are aspects I might not like - but the glass is more than half full. Not for me to discuss the empty part as it distracts to enjoy what is on offer.

Well said.

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Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome wrote:
Patrick, in all honesty ... I get where you're at. I really do. And I get what you're saying. Please allow me to interject that I think you're reacting a bit strongly over something that really honestly isn't that big of a deal.

Honest to God, Thea, I don't think I am. I have not in any way condemned this move, I have simply expressed concerns about it. Everything I have said has been pointing out that there are both ups and downs, and explaining why I feel that way. The only thing that's gotten me at all irate is the assertion that I shouldn't be voicing my opinion at all.

Shadow Lodge 4/5

Oh hai I can haz chronicle.

4/5

Damn. This is a good reward.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Yeah, but the wand boon is still listed as charging full price for a partially charged wand.

Grand Lodge 4/5

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Thod wrote:

There seems to be a lot of discussion here - especially about Bonekeep - so lets add my take:

The boon - haven't seen it yet but people seem exited. Also a nice addition is that you can add a second one for every 50 credits beyond 150 - I'm close to 200 and suddenly the 200 mark becomes something to track.

Bonekeep - I'm in the group of people who avoided it so far - but I'm actually exited that it will be available. Please let me explain:

Bonekeep isn't my style of play that I normally do. I was at one convention that offered it and avoided it both to GM and to play. There were enough 'enthusiasts' who queued up already - so I was happy to give my place to someone else and play a normal scenario.

Having said this - I do have at least one character I would like to try in this adventure - a barbarian with lots of feats that only kick in at negative HP and that have hardly ever been triggered. With enough prestige and knowing what I'm up against I'm intrigued to give it a try.

The change now makes it more likely I can try this at a small convention or with a hand picked group of players. It also means I can offer it at a small convention to a group I feel are up to it / want to experience it.

Here in the UK there have been not many conventions that would have qualified. The local style at the wargame club was to make up characters and get them killed. This is antithesis to developing them - like I think PFS should encourage - but once and again it is nice to have the option.

And that is the important part - having the option !!

I did prep 4-Ex for my home group - and pulled it last minute as I didn't feel they were up to it. Could have been the specific day with only limited players / weak players - but after prepping I felt - that will likely result in a group disappointed.

What has this to do with Bonekeep? As I said above - I have the option !! I can offer it if I feel I have the right group who enjoys it - and that is great. But I don't feel forced.

Overall I feel sorry for...

This, exactly this.

For all the people who have been trying to get to a larger convention to play Bonekeep and can't make it, they now have more options. For all the people that want to GM it, but cannot get a GM slot at a convention, they how have more options.

I've been trying to run this at the last several large conventions I've attended, but the GM spots are always full. Now I can really work toward that 4th star, then I'll be allowed to run it locally. Since the three local conventions are all about 25 tables (no where near being able to offer it), this would also open it up to the players in this area.

Overall, this is a great set of boons and a way to make a previously restricted scenario open to more people. Bravo!

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Thod wrote:

Bonekeep - I'm in the group of people who avoided it so far - but I'm actually exited that it will be available. Please let me explain:

Bonekeep isn't my style of play that I normally do. I was at one convention that offered it and avoided it both to GM and to play. There were enough 'enthusiasts' who queued up already - so I was happy to give my place to someone else and play a normal scenario.

Rest snipped for brevity. I'm in the same boat. As a 'social GM' (read, I enjoy funny voices more than doing damage) Bonekeep isn't my thing either.

But... There are going to be people who want to try it, just like wanting Waking rune on Hard Mode. And as I want to 'up my game' (~64 games done, some not posted, clearly I've work to do) I need to be flexible. Son running TPK, er, Bonekeep would be fun.

Plus my Bonekeep experience wasn't, um, optimal. Not slighting the GM, a quickly cobbled together table of 4, with my playing my witch wasn't going to do well, and it wasn't his fault. but the idea of taking my Archaeologists in, or Kodiak, might be fun to try.

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I thought I was having problems downloading the boon until I checked the downloads tab of firefox and realized I had 11 copies.

I hope someone finds this helpful

5/5

Jeff Merola wrote:
Yeah, but the wand boon is still listed as charging full price for a partially charged wand.

Maybe it's deliberate?

Grand Lodge

Just got mine.... it's bloody amazing.

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Though it is a long way to go, and that character will probably be retired before I get there that Level 9/5 Star Boon on Scrolls is amazing for a non caster. Very nice Boon.

Edited- I hope the price of the wand gets fixed, assuming that it is not intentional

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Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:


Honest to God, Thea, I don't think I am. I have not in any way condemned this move, I have simply expressed concerns about it. Everything I have said has been pointing out that there are both ups and downs, and explaining why I feel that way. The only thing that's gotten me at all irate is the assertion that I shouldn't be voicing my opinion at all.

Patrick,

Your concerns have been well noted by the PFS team, by the other participants in this thread, and by Paizo's publisher. The latter is working very hard to devote more resources to Pathfinder Society as soon as possible, so that we have more capacity to do things like this. This year, internal scheduling concerns make it so that drafting a brand new scenario for the Exclusive slot was not in the cards.

I respectfully ask you to roll with this particular blow. The deed is done. We understand that it is not universally popular, and the best we can do is take that into consideration when we are planning out our offerings for 2015 and beyond.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:
Jeff Merola wrote:
Yeah, but the wand boon is still listed as charging full price for a partially charged wand.
Maybe it's deliberate?

If it is, then I'll probably ignore it as an option once I hit 4 stars and just use the single item at a higher fame cap part of it.

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Perhaps we should all think of the amount of work which was just handed to us? I wish to thank all the folks involved in the creation of this years newest addition to the society.

This encourages other DM's to work harder to gain the benefits and as a whole strengthens the society... to that i say well played and thank you :)

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Jeff Merola wrote:
Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:
Jeff Merola wrote:
Yeah, but the wand boon is still listed as charging full price for a partially charged wand.
Maybe it's deliberate?
If it is, then I'll probably ignore it as an option once I hit 4 stars and just use the single item at a higher fame cap part of it.

Yeah, if that's deliberate that turns from something awesome to something I'll never use.

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Erik Mona wrote:
Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:


Honest to God, Thea, I don't think I am. I have not in any way condemned this move, I have simply expressed concerns about it. Everything I have said has been pointing out that there are both ups and downs, and explaining why I feel that way. The only thing that's gotten me at all irate is the assertion that I shouldn't be voicing my opinion at all.

Patrick,

Your concerns have been well noted by the PFS team, by the other participants in this thread, and by Paizo's publisher. The latter is working very hard to devote more resources to Pathfinder Society as soon as possible, so that we have more capacity to do things like this. This year, internal scheduling concerns make it so that drafting a brand new scenario for the Exclusive slot was not in the cards.

I respectfully ask you to roll with this particular blow. The deed is done. We understand that it is not universally popular, and the best we can do is take that into consideration when we are planning out our offerings for 2015 and beyond.

If my attempts to deliberately be non-offensive in my analysis of announcements is to be interpreted as an overreaction requiring the intercession of the CCO, then I have clearly jumped the shark. So, screw it. Thanks for your time.

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Just downloaded the boons - they are all great but I can't decide which to take.

Did I get this right - one boon now, a second at 200 and to get all three you need 250 credit.

Curse you Paizo - I thought I got up to the pinnacle when I reached 150 and my fifth star. 200 is just around the corner but to apply all three I can't retire any time soon but need to set myself a new goal

250 - that is another year of GMing ...

Spoiler:

That I'm looking forward to - well done Paizo !!

Just seems too late for my wizard who is ready for the Eye of the 10 - but I'm sure there are enough other characters I have.

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Thod wrote:

Just downloaded the boons - they are all great but I can't decide which to take.

Did I get this right - one boon now, a second at 200 and to get all three you need 250 credit.

Curse you Paizo - I thought I got up to the pinnacle when I reached 150 and my fifth star. 200 is just around the corner but to apply all three I can't retire any time soon but need to set myself a new goal

250 - that is another year of GMing ...
** spoiler omitted **

Lol ... another hook for us 5 Stars lol... *sigh* guess I'd better do some more prep work

4/5

It's the gift that keeps on giving!

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What if you have like 500 tables of credit? Can you just have all the boons on all PCs?

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Thod wrote:

Just downloaded the boons - they are all great but I can't decide which to take.

Did I get this right - one boon now, a second at 200 and to get all three you need 250 credit.

Curse you Paizo - I thought I got up to the pinnacle when I reached 150 and my fifth star. 200 is just around the corner but to apply all three I can't retire any time soon but need to set myself a new goal

250 - that is another year of GMing ...
** spoiler omitted **

The way I'm reading it you don't have to choose one of each. If you apply one of the three to a character, then you hit 200 tables you'd be able to apply any of the three to another character.

And if you have 500 tables worth, you'd be able to apply 8 of them to characters...

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Mason Whitlark wrote:
What if you have like 500 tables of credit? Can you just have all the boons on all PCs?

We should ask Doug what he's going to do ... best one (probably) to answer that one ;)

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After this weekend I'll be at 499. I have played 8 real characters and the rest are GM credit babies that haven't so much as rolled for init. So I'll probably put one on each of them. It will increase the odds that when I do get to play I can take advantage of the boon.

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Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
The way I'm reading it you don't have to choose one of each. If you apply one of the three to a character, then you hit 200 tables you'd be able to apply any of the three to another character.

Agreed. Since I'm over 200 tables, I could choose to give the Student of Spells sheet to two different characters if I want.

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Doug Miles wrote:
After this weekend I'll be at 499. I have played 8 real characters and the rest are GM credit babies that haven't so much as rolled for init. So I'll probably put one on each of them. It will increase the odds that when I do get to play I can take advantage of the boon.

That's awesome, I know Delbert's not far behind. Glad to see you're making it to Origins this year after a two year break. So your gonna play 8 of the slots with your 8 pc's (with new boons to boot)and gm 5 slots.....:)

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Doug Miles wrote:
After this weekend I'll be at 499.

What.

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Happy Tuesday, folks. I've only been able to follow this thread in quick sound bites up until now, as I devoted almost all of yesterday to finishing up my RPG Superstar judging comments. I've now caught up in earnest, and I see there are some concerns with this decision regarding this year's Exclusive scenario and some questions about the Chronicle sheets. Erik and Mike have already addressed some of these, and I can provide further clarifications and updates on the others.

How many of the Chronicle sheets do we get to assign?
A GM gets one Chronicle sheet, and he or she chooses from the three available. That Chronicle sheet can then apply to one character. Once the judge reaches 200 games reported, he or she can select a second Chronicle sheet (the same one or a different one) and assign it to a new character. The process repeats once for every additional 50 games reported.

This PP/Day Job cost…when exactly do I spend it?
You only need to spend the PP/Day Job cost once and only to acquire the boon in the first place. After that it's yours forever.

Is this an ongoing reward, or is this a one-time thing like a holiday boon?
This is an ongoing reward.

What's with the wand's price for the 4-Star reward?
That looks like a miscalculation on my part. In my hope to clear up any questions about pricing, I remembered to fifth the material component cost but not the base wand cost. I have corrected the base file, and the download that goes up on the free products page in a little bit should have the updated value. I'll also ask about correcting this blog's download.

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Thanks John.

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I assume that each of the five boons must be paid for rather than the cost being paid only once.

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pathar wrote:


If my attempts to deliberately be non-offensive in my analysis of announcements is to be interpreted as an overreaction requiring the intercession of the CCO, then I have clearly jumped the shark. So, screw it. Thanks for your time.

Oh, it's nothing so dramatic as all of that. I read and comment on these boards just like everybody. I'm not trying to shut down discussion of this, just letting Patrick Harris specifically know that his concerns have been noted and will be considered in future decisions of this nature, but that there is not really anything to be done in this case, and that continuing to gripe about it (however constructively) is not likely to have any additional effect above and beyond the several similar posts already in this thread.

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John, two more quick questions, which have already come up on the thread:

Does a PC need to have a legal Day Job skill in order to "spend" a Day Job check for this? Or does she need to spend a PP?

If a character with this boon dies, can the player reassign the boon to a new character? If so, what does the language at the bottom of Student of Spells ("So long as you possess this boon...") mean? If not, and the character is lost, and any other characters lose access to the spell, can they choose a replacement spell, or is it simply lost?

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John Compton wrote:

Happy Tuesday, folks. I've only been able to follow this thread in quick sound bites up until now, as I devoted almost all of yesterday to finishing up my RPG Superstar judging comments. I've now caught up in earnest, and I see there are some concerns with this decision regarding this year's Exclusive scenario and some questions about the Chronicle sheets. Erik and Mike have already addressed some of these, and I can provide further clarifications and updates on the others.

How many of the Chronicle sheets do we get to assign?
A GM gets one Chronicle sheet, and he or she chooses from the three available. That Chronicle sheet can then apply to one character. Once the judge reaches 200 games reported, he or she can select a second Chronicle sheet (the same one or a different one) and assign it to a new character. The process repeats once for every additional 50 games reported.

This PP/Day Job cost…when exactly do I spend it?
You only need to spend the PP/Day Job cost once and only to acquire the boon in the first place. After that it's yours forever.

Is this an ongoing reward, or is this a one-time thing like a holiday boon?
This is an ongoing reward.

What's with the wand's price for the 4-Star reward?
That looks like a miscalculation on my part. In my hope to clear up any questions about pricing, I remembered to fifth the material component cost but not the base wand cost. I have corrected the base file, and the download that goes up on the free products page in a little bit should have the updated value. I'll also ask about correcting this blog's download.

I like what I'm seeing so far, but I have a question (for the inevitable GM questions coming this coming week at the upcoming Jax Game Crawl.

That will be: 'Where in my downloads will it be located at?'

(I know my GMs.. they are like me..with LOTS of product on the download page already)

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Thomas Graham wrote:
John Compton wrote:

Happy Tuesday, folks. I've only been able to follow this thread in quick sound bites up until now, as I devoted almost all of yesterday to finishing up my RPG Superstar judging comments. I've now caught up in earnest, and I see there are some concerns with this decision regarding this year's Exclusive scenario and some questions about the Chronicle sheets. Erik and Mike have already addressed some of these, and I can provide further clarifications and updates on the others.

How many of the Chronicle sheets do we get to assign?
A GM gets one Chronicle sheet, and he or she chooses from the three available. That Chronicle sheet can then apply to one character. Once the judge reaches 200 games reported, he or she can select a second Chronicle sheet (the same one or a different one) and assign it to a new character. The process repeats once for every additional 50 games reported.

This PP/Day Job cost…when exactly do I spend it?
You only need to spend the PP/Day Job cost once and only to acquire the boon in the first place. After that it's yours forever.

Is this an ongoing reward, or is this a one-time thing like a holiday boon?
This is an ongoing reward.

What's with the wand's price for the 4-Star reward?
That looks like a miscalculation on my part. In my hope to clear up any questions about pricing, I remembered to fifth the material component cost but not the base wand cost. I have corrected the base file, and the download that goes up on the free products page in a little bit should have the updated value. I'll also ask about correcting this blog's download.

I like what I'm seeing so far, but I have a question (for the inevitable GM questions coming this coming week at the upcoming Jax Game Crawl.

That will be: 'Where in my downloads will it be located at?'

(I know my GMs.. they are like me..with LOTS of product on the download page already)

As someone with tons of products in Downloads as well, I highly recommend using Control+F and typing part of the name. Doing that cut my time searching for the right scenario by a factor of 10!

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Erik Mona wrote:
letting Patrick Harris specifically know that his concerns have been noted and will be considered in future decisions of this nature, but that there is not really anything to be done in this case, and that continuing to gripe about it (however constructively) is not likely to have any additional effect above and beyond the several similar posts already in this thread.

Erik Thanks for your reply.

I think for some of us our concerns were that we will see the same next year, that the Exclusive will just be Bonekeep Part II. But your post hopefully shows this was a 1 time thing due to a heavy scheduling and currently there are no plans to repeat this in the future.

I am curious though do you have new plans for the future so this does not happen again? Because truthfully scheduling work time for PFS has been an issue since day 1. How is the future going to be different?

I know Mike and John are dedicated hires for PFS, but the problem does not seem to be there but the Editing/layout after that. Is something going to be done to finally be able to get PFS products through faster at that stage, maybe even to the point you can add more PFS products (Scenarios)?

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I wanted to make sure the last GM reward was going to be available before it was announced. Four and five star GMS, as well as VOs, should now have the six, one hour goblin attack quests in their downloads.

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Chris Mortika wrote:

John, two more quick questions, which have already come up on the thread:

Does a PC need to have a legal Day Job skill in order to "spend" a Day Job check for this? Or does she need to spend a PP?

Think of a character having a Day Job opportunity at the end of a scenario. Some characters don't have a Day Job, and the opportunity is wasted. Some have a Treasure Map boon and use that instead. Whether a character has the appropriate skill or not is irrelevant to this particular Chronicle sheet; he or she still has that chunk of down time.

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If a character with this boon dies, can the player reassign the boon to a new character? If so, what does the language at the bottom of Student of Spells ("So long as you possess this boon...") mean? If not, and the character is lost, and any other characters lose access to the spell, can they choose a replacement spell, or is it simply lost?

There's no reassigning the boon to a new character at this time; I have lingering concerns about cycling it between a several characters that I might revisit in the future. If a 5-star student of Aram Zey dies, the boon still exists and grants a benefit to the participant's other characters; the benefit is not lost. The same thing goes for several other scenario boons out there that expand character options.

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Michael Brock wrote:
Four and five star GMS, as well as VOs, should now have the six, one hour goblin attack quests in their downloads.

Mike, they were added to my account, but My Downloads page informs me that "The following ... products have been added to your account, but are not currently available for download:"

I also received a message informing me that "The [adventures] will be available from your My Downloads page ... as soon as the downloads are officially released."

So, thanks for all you and the rest of the Paizo team have done so far, but there's a little more work still to come.

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John and Erik: I think that a large part of the furor over the 5-EX issue would be diminished if there were an alternative way of satisfying the Specials requirement. Would you consider an option that would allow 5 scenarios past 150 to count as a single special for that requirement? 10? I'm fine with running Bonekeep a few times, but I'm just not excited about running it 5 times, nor am I excited about waiting another 2 years to get my 5th star.

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Netopalis wrote:
John and Erik: I think that a large part of the furor over the 5-EX issue would be diminished if there were an alternative way of satisfying the Specials requirement. Would you consider an option that would allow 5 scenarios past 150 to count as a single special for that requirement? 10? I'm fine with running Bonekeep a few times, but I'm just not excited about running it 5 times, nor am I excited about waiting another 2 years to get my 5th star.

That is currently not an option under consideration.

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Michael Brock wrote:
I wanted to make sure the last GM reward was going to be available before it was announced. Four and five star GMS, as well as VOs, should now have the six, one hour goblin attack quests in their downloads.

Got the notification, but they are listed as not yet available.

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Michael Brock wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
John and Erik: I think that a large part of the furor over the 5-EX issue would be diminished if there were an alternative way of satisfying the Specials requirement. Would you consider an option that would allow 5 scenarios past 150 to count as a single special for that requirement? 10? I'm fine with running Bonekeep a few times, but I'm just not excited about running it 5 times, nor am I excited about waiting another 2 years to get my 5th star.
That is currently not an option under consideration.

Well, I hope that some options are being considered. Otherwise, I'm going to have to run a lot of Bonekeep, a scenario that I am not particularly well-suited to run. It's not really an optimal solution for me or my players. I'll do it if I have to - it's just not something I'm excited about, and I don't feel that it's good for the campaign. I'd imagine that there are a large number of similarly-situated 4-star GMs.

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John Compton wrote:
If a 5-star student of Aram Zey dies, the boon still exists and grants a benefit to the participant's other characters; the benefit is not lost. The same thing goes for several other scenario boons out there that expand character options.

So, just checking: if I assign the Student of Spells boon to 4218-1, and that character dies, then I can still apply the benefits of The Spells Know All Secrets to my other characters. In that case, I should bring my dead PC to indicate my right to use an otherwise-illegal option, yes?

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Michael Brock wrote:
I wanted to make sure the last GM reward was going to be available before it was announced. Four and five star GMS, as well as VOs, should now have the six, one hour goblin attack quests in their downloads.

Missed this post earlier. Thanks a lot for this! I'm certain that I'll get a lot of use out of it. I know that my VO had a great time running the goblin events during GenCon.

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Netopalis wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
John and Erik: I think that a large part of the furor over the 5-EX issue would be diminished if there were an alternative way of satisfying the Specials requirement. Would you consider an option that would allow 5 scenarios past 150 to count as a single special for that requirement? 10? I'm fine with running Bonekeep a few times, but I'm just not excited about running it 5 times, nor am I excited about waiting another 2 years to get my 5th star.
That is currently not an option under consideration.
Well, I hope that some options are being considered. Otherwise, I'm going to have to run a lot of Bonekeep, a scenario that I am not particularly well-suited to run. It's not really an optimal solution for me or my players. I'll do it if I have to - it's just not something I'm excited about, and I don't feel that it's good for the campaign. I'd imagine that there are a large number of similarly-situated 4-star GMs.

If a different 5-EX would have been released, would you be asking for the same thing? If the theoretical 5-EX was combat heavy, and wasn't well suited for your GMing style, them what?

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Thomas Graham wrote:

I have a question (for the inevitable GM questions coming this coming week at the upcoming Jax Game Crawl.

That will be: 'Where in my downloads will it be located at?'

(I know my GMs.. they are like me..with LOTS of product on the download page already)

So just click the column header, and sort your downloads page by "Date added to my downloads"; that will put it at or near the top of the list. Then, once you've downloaded it, you can change back to whatever sort order you were using.

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Michael Brock wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
John and Erik: I think that a large part of the furor over the 5-EX issue would be diminished if there were an alternative way of satisfying the Specials requirement. Would you consider an option that would allow 5 scenarios past 150 to count as a single special for that requirement? 10? I'm fine with running Bonekeep a few times, but I'm just not excited about running it 5 times, nor am I excited about waiting another 2 years to get my 5th star.
That is currently not an option under consideration.
Well, I hope that some options are being considered. Otherwise, I'm going to have to run a lot of Bonekeep, a scenario that I am not particularly well-suited to run. It's not really an optimal solution for me or my players. I'll do it if I have to - it's just not something I'm excited about, and I don't feel that it's good for the campaign. I'd imagine that there are a large number of similarly-situated 4-star GMs.
If a different 5-EX would have been released, would you be asking for the same thing? If the theoretical 5-EX was combat heavy, and wasn't well suited for your GMing style, them what?

Then I'd have sighed and ran with it, but at least most of my local players would be available to play it. I also doubt that it would have been a scenario that would require a warning before being ran.

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Netopalis wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
John and Erik: I think that a large part of the furor over the 5-EX issue would be diminished if there were an alternative way of satisfying the Specials requirement. Would you consider an option that would allow 5 scenarios past 150 to count as a single special for that requirement? 10? I'm fine with running Bonekeep a few times, but I'm just not excited about running it 5 times, nor am I excited about waiting another 2 years to get my 5th star.
That is currently not an option under consideration.
Well, I hope that some options are being considered. Otherwise, I'm going to have to run a lot of Bonekeep, a scenario that I am not particularly well-suited to run. It's not really an optimal solution for me or my players. I'll do it if I have to - it's just not something I'm excited about, and I don't feel that it's good for the campaign. I'd imagine that there are a large number of similarly-situated 4-star GMs.

Im sure you arre already aware, but just in case others are not, the Bonekeep scenarios and other season EX scenarios are not the only ones that qualify towards your 10 needed for the fifth star. The Gencon special scenario from each year counts, as did the Grand Convocation from PaizoCon a couple years back.

Grand Lodge 4/5 Global Organized Play Coordinator

Netopalis wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
John and Erik: I think that a large part of the furor over the 5-EX issue would be diminished if there were an alternative way of satisfying the Specials requirement. Would you consider an option that would allow 5 scenarios past 150 to count as a single special for that requirement? 10? I'm fine with running Bonekeep a few times, but I'm just not excited about running it 5 times, nor am I excited about waiting another 2 years to get my 5th star.
That is currently not an option under consideration.
Well, I hope that some options are being considered. Otherwise, I'm going to have to run a lot of Bonekeep, a scenario that I am not particularly well-suited to run. It's not really an optimal solution for me or my players. I'll do it if I have to - it's just not something I'm excited about, and I don't feel that it's good for the campaign. I'd imagine that there are a large number of similarly-situated 4-star GMs.
If a different 5-EX would have been released, would you be asking for the same thing? If the theoretical 5-EX was combat heavy, and wasn't well suited for your GMing style, them what?
Then I'd have sighed and ran with it, but at least most of my local players would be available to play it. I also doubt that it would have been a scenario that would require a warning before being ran.

Traditionally the EXs have new or different things in them. This one has warning boxed text. The 2-EX had the first chase scene. As a five star GM, we like that they be able to run just about any scenario effectively. I'm sorry it doesn't fit your GM style, but it is what has been chosen.

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Seth Gipson wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
John and Erik: I think that a large part of the furor over the 5-EX issue would be diminished if there were an alternative way of satisfying the Specials requirement. Would you consider an option that would allow 5 scenarios past 150 to count as a single special for that requirement? 10? I'm fine with running Bonekeep a few times, but I'm just not excited about running it 5 times, nor am I excited about waiting another 2 years to get my 5th star.
That is currently not an option under consideration.
Well, I hope that some options are being considered. Otherwise, I'm going to have to run a lot of Bonekeep, a scenario that I am not particularly well-suited to run. It's not really an optimal solution for me or my players. I'll do it if I have to - it's just not something I'm excited about, and I don't feel that it's good for the campaign. I'd imagine that there are a large number of similarly-situated 4-star GMs.
Im sure you arre already aware, but just in case others are not, the Bonekeep scenarios and other season EX scenarios are not the only ones that qualify towards your 10 needed for the fifth star. The Gencon special scenario from each year counts, as did the Grand Convocation from PaizoCon a couple years back.

Right. I go to 2-3 conventions a year. That's a pretty good number, given the fact that I live in rural Appalachia. But, to get 5 more specials credits just from conventions, it'd take me about 2 years.

Grand Lodge 4/5 Global Organized Play Coordinator

Netopalis wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
Michael Brock wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
John and Erik: I think that a large part of the furor over the 5-EX issue would be diminished if there were an alternative way of satisfying the Specials requirement. Would you consider an option that would allow 5 scenarios past 150 to count as a single special for that requirement? 10? I'm fine with running Bonekeep a few times, but I'm just not excited about running it 5 times, nor am I excited about waiting another 2 years to get my 5th star.
That is currently not an option under consideration.
Well, I hope that some options are being considered. Otherwise, I'm going to have to run a lot of Bonekeep, a scenario that I am not particularly well-suited to run. It's not really an optimal solution for me or my players. I'll do it if I have to - it's just not something I'm excited about, and I don't feel that it's good for the campaign. I'd imagine that there are a large number of similarly-situated 4-star GMs.
Im sure you arre already aware, but just in case others are not, the Bonekeep scenarios and other season EX scenarios are not the only ones that qualify towards your 10 needed for the fifth star. The Gencon special scenario from each year counts, as did the Grand Convocation from PaizoCon a couple years back.
Right. I go to 2-3 conventions a year. That's a pretty good number, given the fact that I live in rural Appalachia. But, to get 5 more specials credits just from conventions, it'd take me about 2 years.

I'm confused. If you go to 2-3 conventions a year, and they offer the season special (Siege of Diamond City) and you GM Bonekeep once at each con, it would only take you one year as you would have the last five you need in one year.

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