GM Rewards

Monday, February 10, 2014

Season 5 is nearly halfway done. That means we've posted faction head letters (stickied) in the Faction Talk section of the Pathfinder Society Organized Play messageboard. We'll also be sending out the email update to registered Pathfinder Society players as an additional heads-up, and we're frequently exploring other ways to get the word out.

Over the past three seasons, the Pathfinder Society campaign has published special scenarios that are exclusive to 4-star GMs, 5-star GMs, Venture Captains, and Venture Lieutenants—both to reward our top judges and to incentivize others to GM more and earn those stars. When Pathfinder Society Scenario #2–EX: The Midnight Mauler first came out in early 2011, the campaign had one 5-star GM, about half a dozen 4-star GMs, and 18 newly minted Venture Captains. We've since grown to over 50 5-star GMs, more than 150 4-star GMs, and 345 Venture Captains and Venture Lieutenants! Rather impressive!

Since then, we've introduced quite a few new GM rewards that continue to reward and incentivize the campaign's excellent volunteers to keep sharing their hobby with others: limited replay and the star bonus on "shirt re-rolls." Today we're announcing both a new reward and a change to how we're handling the exclusive scenario this year.

The Exclusive

This year we're releasing The Ruins of Bonekeep, Part 1: The Silent Grave as an exclusive scenario for qualifying GMs, who can now run the adventure anywhere. These GMs should see the scenario in their downloads early this week. Keep in mind that when qualifying for one's fifth star, all Ruins of Bonekeep adventures contribute to a GM's 10 required Exclusive or Special events.

GM Star Chronicle

Back when Mike first became Campaign Coordinator, I remember sending him an elaborate proposal for a GM reward system. Back then it was clunky, required heavy IT support, and accurately reflected how new I was to booncraft, so the idea faded from memory. We recently rediscovered those old plans, blew off the dust, and (with the help of some clever Venture Captains and Venture Lieutenants) revised the concept for distribution. In addition to being available for download from this blog, we will add these to the Free Products page in the next day or so.

The GM Star Chronicle sheet is a one-page reward that provides benefits that scale with a player's stars and a character's level. Each represents a character's tutelage and special training with one of the three Masters: Aram Zey, Kreighton Shaine, or Marcos Farabellus. When you meet both criteria for a boon (such as the GM having 3 stars and the character being level 5+), you can skip a Day Job roll or spend 1 Prestige Point to train with your patron and gain that boon's benefits. At this time, each GM can only select and assign one such Chronicle sheet. The exception to this limit is a 5-star GM, who can select and assign an additional Chronicle sheet to a different character for each additional 50 tables of GM credit he or she earns (two sheets at 200 games, three sheets at 250, et cetera).

Download your own GM Star Chronicle today! - (172 KB zip/PDF)

I'm excited to hear what new characters these inspire and how existing characters might connect with these eminent instructors.

John Compton
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One question regarding bone keep now that it's been opened up in availability.

Do you still require it run in a 5 hour slot, and hard capped at that time limit?

Also, when replay was brought up it was to be once/star/season, refreshing at gencon, and this was changed to once/star, with the caveat that you wanted to see how it went over one session, and potentially opening it there.

Any thoughts on if it will be changed to once/star/season?

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Finlanderboy wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
I think you all misunderstand. I'm not as upset about the lack of a free scenario - I'm more upset about the lack of opportunity to reach 5th star. As a practical matter, only a handful of local players have not played Bonekeep at a recent local convention. This is a problem. In recent years, it was significantly easier to reach 5th star, and I feel that the only reason that I'm not being given the same opportunity is that I started a few months. I'd be fine if the Bonekeep plays reset or there was some way to expand the number of people who can play Bonekeep, but as it stands, it's a huge inconvenience.
Bonekeep should have a ton of merit to replay. Once since many people fail. Two the rewards are much bigger. SO for those one star peeps a great sell to have them replay.

We don't have many 1-star GMs locally, and those that are may not wish to use their single lifetime star to replay a scenario that is entirely dungeon. Even if there were a nexus of people who could take that option, I doubt that it's nearly enough to put a dent in my remaining 5 exclusives needed.

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I have a question about this Boon in conjunction with the Boon for Year of the Risen Rune

My gut says no

but- I have a Character who was Lantern Lodge before they retired and so has the boon from that one to treat my fame score as 2 higher when purchasing a single Item still Unused

would it be legal to stack the 2 boons for an effective Fame Boost of 7 to 1 Item

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Netopalis wrote:
Finlanderboy wrote:
Netopalis wrote:
I think you all misunderstand. I'm not as upset about the lack of a free scenario - I'm more upset about the lack of opportunity to reach 5th star. As a practical matter, only a handful of local players have not played Bonekeep at a recent local convention. This is a problem. In recent years, it was significantly easier to reach 5th star, and I feel that the only reason that I'm not being given the same opportunity is that I started a few months. I'd be fine if the Bonekeep plays reset or there was some way to expand the number of people who can play Bonekeep, but as it stands, it's a huge inconvenience.
Bonekeep should have a ton of merit to replay. Once since many people fail. Two the rewards are much bigger. SO for those one star peeps a great sell to have them replay.
We don't have many 1-star GMs locally, and those that are may not wish to use their single lifetime star to replay a scenario that is entirely dungeon. Even if there were a nexus of people who could take that option, I doubt that it's nearly enough to put a dent in my remaining 5 exclusives needed.

No, but you can try fishing into the online community. There are plenty of us who haven't played Bonekeep who would be interested. I am fairly sure that the run that IamMars has posted is probably full up already.

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David_Bross wrote:

One question regarding bone keep now that it's been opened up in availability.

Do you still require it run in a 5 hour slot, and hard capped at that time limit?

Also, when replay was brought up it was to be once/star/season, refreshing at gencon, and this was changed to once/star, with the caveat that you wanted to see how it went over one session, and potentially opening it there.

Any thoughts on if it will be changed to once/star/season?

I think that Bonekeep will be held to the 5 hour time limit, and the block text at the start will remain.

This is because I imagine that VOs and 4/5 star GMs shouldn't have any problem in following the guidelines for running the Keep without "watering it down" for their players.

Sczarni 5/5 * Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Pullman

I don't plan on watering it down at all. Do you Walter?

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

Clarification please.

You pick one gm star boon and can only apply that boon, and only to one PC? Or you can apply each of the three boons to one PC? (I assume it is the first)

Also, the language limiting the boon to one of the three should be on the boon, or on an introductory page of the PDF. Otherwise this thing is going to get passed around, and that text and limitation is going to get missed.

(I would lean in favor of having that whole part of the blog page as the first page of the PDF so that people know what this is and what the rules are.)

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kinevon wrote:
No, but you can try fishing into the online community. There are plenty of us who haven't played Bonekeep who would be interested. I am fairly sure that the run that IamMars has posted is probably full up already.

I posted a Bonekeep run? News to me...

(I mean, I probably will, but probably not for a little bit. I'm in the middle of running two groups through Eyes of the Ten right now.)

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Bob Jonquet wrote:
You can nitpick all your want, but the reality is Bonekeep is now more available that it was before. No longer will you be required to attend a convention with 50+ tables to enjoy it. That is bonus. Period.

Yep. We've got a table or so of local players who really want to play Bonekeep, to the extent that they were thinking of organising a local game day just for that purpose. They were disappointed to find out that there was a 50+ table requirement.

Now it would be possible for them to play it at a one-day special event. That will make them happy.

Of course that does mean they'll need someone to run it. It's not really a scenario that appeals to me, but I guess I should be prepared to take on the responsibility (unless I can find another qualified GM who would like to step in).

Shadow Lodge 4/5 Venture-Captain, California—San Francisco Bay Area South & West

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Also not all of the publications spell Drengs name the same way either.

Nope. Just ran Penumbral Accords tonight, and the name there was Drandle Drang.

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James McTeague wrote:
kinevon wrote:
No, but you can try fishing into the online community. There are plenty of us who haven't played Bonekeep who would be interested. I am fairly sure that the run that IamMars has posted is probably full up already.

I posted a Bonekeep run? News to me...

(I mean, I probably will, but probably not for a little bit. I'm in the middle of running two groups through Eyes of the Ten right now.)

My memory is like a sieve, sometimes. Must have been another frequent GM online. Maybe Jacob or Jesse?

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it was Cronge

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Is this Chronicle going to be an ongoing thing, open to anyone who gains stars from this point forward, or do you have to qualify for it "now", similar to a festival boon?

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John Francis wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
Also not all of the publications spell Drengs name the same way either.
Nope. Just ran Penumbral Accords tonight, and the name there was Drandle Drang.

"You are in a maze of twisted little Venture-Captains, all alike."

The Exchange 4/5 5/5

Is anyone else still unable to download the chronicle? (Tuesday 1200 UTC)

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Wraith235 wrote:
it was Cronge

And, of course, with that memory wack, I remember thinking it was amusing that one of my Dragon's Demand players was running it, but at a time I couldn't easily participate in...

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Belafon wrote:
Is anyone else still unable to download the chronicle? (Tuesday 1200 UTC)

I can't access it either.

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Mike Tuholski wrote:
Belafon wrote:
Is anyone else still unable to download the chronicle? (Tuesday 1200 UTC)
I can't access it either.

Me either

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Bob Jonquet wrote:
Bonekeep is now more available that it was before. No longer will you be required to attend a convention with 50+ tables to enjoy it. That is bonus. Period.

There's obviously not universal agreement on that point, but let's set it aside. For the sake of these next few paragraphs, let's pretend everyone in the world agrees that Bonekeep's widened audience "is bonus. Period."

These things don't exist in a vacuum. As a consequence of that change, there is not a new exclusive scenario, i.e. one that had not been run before, that 4+ star GMs could pick up and run with. Being on the verge of 4 stars, I was looking forward to that, but now it's not going to happen. Several other 4+ star GMs have expressed similar disappointment.

Just because one aspect of this--again, only for the purposes of this conversation--"is bonus. Period." doesn't mean that every aspect is. We have a right to our own opinions, and here on a discussion forum, which is a forum for discussion, where we are intended to discuss things, we're gonna discuss 'em. Cope.

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Dragios wrote:
Mike Tuholski wrote:
Belafon wrote:
Is anyone else still unable to download the chronicle? (Tuesday 1200 UTC)
I can't access it either.
Me either

I believe at the minimum, you have to be a 3 star GM. Don't know why Mike is having problems though. I suspect that because of tech limitations they have to authorise each account individually, so elligible folks just might need to wait a bit.


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I was able to download it yesterday, and am only a 2 star. I cannot see why it would be restricted, as the first reward level is for 1 star GMs.

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Mistwalker wrote:
I was able to download it yesterday, and am only a 2 star. I cannot see why it would be restricted, as the first reward level is for 1 star GMs.

Yeah, everyone should be able to access it. But the error I keep getting whenever I click the link is:

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The requested URL was not found on this server, or you do not have permission to access this area.

It is also not listed on the Free Products page yet but I suppose when it is in the next couple days the access will be fixed. I can be patient and wait until then.

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Bonekeep is still held to the five hour time limit, as well as the stipulations in the warning boxed text at the beginning. Once a party leaves the dungeon, the adventure is over.

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I don't believe there is any more appropriate place than the announcement of a change (and it is a change) to calmly and politely discuss our disappointment.

No one is raving (good job Dragnmoon!) - we're each explaining the facets of our sadness, which are varied between us.

For me personally, I don't think Con-exclusive -> 4-Star Exclusive is quite as special, but I *do* think it is brilliant as an evolution of offerings and efficiency. My disappoint lies primarily with the content of that Con-exclusive, which I have avoided.

This is important feedback to the Coordinators.

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The requested URL was not found on this server, or you do not have permission to access this area.

I doubt this will be fixed before the next 4 hours - check back then.

Scarab Sages 4/5

The boon works for all star levels, so everyone should be able to access. It is more than likely a problem with the site.

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Michael Brock wrote:
Bonekeep is still held to the five hour time limit, as well as the stipulations in the warning boxed text at the beginning. Once a party leaves the dungeon, the adventure is over.

Don't you have a beach to go sit on? Aren't there waves that need watching? Are there not majestic views from the road you need to admire?

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Michael Brock wrote:
Bonekeep is still held to the five hour time limit, as well as the stipulations in the warning boxed text at the beginning. Once a party leaves the dungeon, the adventure is over.

Any thoughts on Bonekeep being run as a Play-by-Post? Not available at this time?

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You know, the 2-star boon for Student of Blades is something you could actually build a character around...

The Exchange 2/5

Should I be logging a case to customer service about not being able to download the boon? A few other people have mentioned they can't, as well, so I was waiting to hear from staff as to what's going on. But if there's nothing wrong with the boon and it's something with our accounts?

Paizo Employee 3/5 5/5

I also get the error, but I imagine we'll need to wait until later in the day since they're on West Coast time so aren't even at work yet.

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I for one am very glad Bonekeep Part 1 is the 5-EX and I hope part two next year is the 6-EX. We didn't get to run this scenario in my area while I was VC and I don't think as of today the Current VC's have had the chance either.

I don't get to play much PFS as of late and when the opprotunity arrives I like to play the hard / challenging games and this one from what I have read fits that billing.

I look forward to dying in this one.

Thank you Mike & John.

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teribithia9 wrote:
Should I be logging a case to customer service about not being able to download the boon? A few other people have mentioned they can't, as well, so I was waiting to hear from staff as to what's going on. But if there's nothing wrong with the boon and it's something with our accounts?

I assume there is a server issue as opposed to something wrong with accounts, as one typically can go to a product page when not logged in. I have also unable to get to the boon download since yesterday. Seeing as how Mike has been active on this thread, I am sure they are aware of the issue and trying to resolve it.

Grand Lodge 4/5 **** Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento

Clicking the link didn't seem to work. But right clicking it and selecting save target did.

YMMV.

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FLite wrote:

Clicking the link didn't seem to work. But right clicking it and selecting save target did.

YMMV.

I got the message "Failed. No file." when I tried doing that. :(


They are probably still working things out on it, just be patient with the Boon

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Darius Silverbolt wrote:

I for one am very glad Bonekeep Part 1 is the 5-EX and I hope part two next year is the 6-EX. We didn't get to run this scenario in my area while I was VC and I don't think as of today the Current VC's have had the chance either.

I don't get to play much PFS as of late and when the opprotunity arrives I like to play the hard / challenging games and this one from what I have read fits that billing.

I look forward to dying in this one.

Thank you Mike & John.

Let me know when you want me to come down and kill you all Paul :)

5/5

Darius Silverbolt wrote:

I for one am very glad Bonekeep Part 1 is the 5-EX and I hope part two next year is the 6-EX. We didn't get to run this scenario in my area while I was VC and I don't think as of today the Current VC's have had the chance either.

I don't get to play much PFS as of late and when the opprotunity arrives I like to play the hard / challenging games and this one from what I have read fits that billing.

I look forward to dying in this one.

Thank you Mike & John.

Mike said up thread that there were no current plans to make Bonekeep II the season 6 exclusive.

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Michael Brock wrote:
Bonekeep is still held to the five hour time limit, as well as the stipulations in the warning boxed text at the beginning. Once a party leaves the dungeon, the adventure is over.

So the second time Jason Bulmahn killed my PC in Bonekeep shouldn't have counted. The game should have been called after we went back to town to get the first set of Raise Dead & Restorations on my PC! BULMAAAAAAHN!!! I want my gold back!

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Hm. My followup post on what I said earlier, which I was almost late to work because I was so busy typing, has disappeared. But there is no indication that it was deliberately deleted, nor do I see any reason that it would have been, so I will try saying it again.

Bob Jonquet wrote:
Bonekeep is now more available that it was before. No longer will you be required to attend a convention with 50+ tables to enjoy it. That is bonus. Period.

Despite my earlier willingness to stipulate this for a specific argument, I actually disagree with it on its own.

First, I don't think this "is bonus. Period." I think that it's differently accessible, but not universally so. People will be more likely to be able to find a table of it overall, but big cons will not be able to offer as much of it, and given the nature of Bonekeep, I think you'll find fewer 4+GMs/VOs willing to run it over and over, and of the ones who do, I think you'll see more burnout. It's got a very specific appeal, which means it's not going to be as useful for most.

Second, I like the idea of "con exclusives" and "merit exclusives" being separate things. Con exclusives are rewards to people who organize big events, which serve as draw to same. Merit exclusives are rewards to people who are in it for the long haul, which serve as reasons for them to stay in it. And neither precludes the existence of the other: People who organize big events over the long term get both. The blending of these two previously separate concepts, in my opinion, lessens the impact of both.

So I don't think this is automatically all bonus. I think it's a change, and it might even be a positive one, but like everything else in the world, it has both good and bad aspects.

Finally, I want to restate that this is a discussion forum, and this thread is devoted to discussing this announcement. Discussion doesn't mean "just agreement," so if you want a thread that's just agreement, you would be the one who should go start another thread, not the people here to discuss in good faith.

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Nathan King 788 wrote:
Darius Silverbolt wrote:

I for one am very glad Bonekeep Part 1 is the 5-EX and I hope part two next year is the 6-EX. We didn't get to run this scenario in my area while I was VC and I don't think as of today the Current VC's have had the chance either.

I don't get to play much PFS as of late and when the opprotunity arrives I like to play the hard / challenging games and this one from what I have read fits that billing.

I look forward to dying in this one.

Thank you Mike & John.

Mike said up thread that there were no current plans to make Bonekeep II the season 6 exclusive.

If you mean his reply to Drogon, I think what he said was that there are no current plans for Bonekeep 1 to move from 05-EX to 06-16. That doesn't say anything about whether Bonekeep 2 will be 06-EX. (You might be talking about a separate post, but if so, it's one I missed.)

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I get that people have concerns over various portions of this, or may be disappointed due to various portions ... however, can we please just have a day or maybe two to be grateful that we got a kick-butt boon (regardless of what you think about it) and that there is an exclusive (no matter the form).

I shudder to think of what could happen when Mike and John get tired of trying to give us things and due to all the complaints decide that we don't need anything.

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Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:
I think you'll find fewer 4+GMs/VOs willing to run it over and over, and of the ones who do, I think you'll see more burnout.

This is the same arguement for the 4-star exclusives in general, so is the issue you are having with Bonekeep as the exclusive, or with the exclusives in general?

4/5

Thank you John and Mike! These are both exciting announcements! I am running a mini con next month, and I am happy to be able to add Bonekeep to the scenarios offered. Thanks

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Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:


I think you'll find fewer 4+GMs/VOs willing to run it over and over, and of the ones who do, I think you'll see more burnout.

Lets ask Doug how many conventions he sat at with Midnight Mauler and ran it for the whole convention ... I know of a few in there lol

Burnout happens no matter the scenario ... at that point it's more a matter of the GM recognizing their limits and being able to say "no" I need a weekend off.

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Seth Gipson wrote:
This is the same arguement for the 4-star exclusives in general, so is the issue you are having with Bonekeep as the exclusive, or with the exclusives in general?
Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome wrote:
Burnout happens no matter the scenario ... at that point it's more a matter of the GM recognizing their limits and being able to say "no" I need a weekend off.

I said more burnout. Midnight Mauler has several endings and a variety of approaches. In Bonekeep you can either pick "east" or "west." Yes, you will get burned out running the same thing over and over, but things like roleplay and variation--which Bonekeep lacks--will put that off a bit.

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Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome wrote:
I get that people have concerns over various portions of this, or may be disappointed due to various portions ... however, can we please just have a day or maybe two to be grateful that we got a kick-butt boon (regardless of what you think about it) and that there is an exclusive (no matter the form).

Sure. Would you prefer to have comments on these posts locked until 48 hours have passed, or just to not read them until after that? Because this is a discussion forum on the Internet, so those are your options.

Also, why is "expressing concerns" the same thing as "complaining?" Why can't I simply say, "I have these concerns, here are the results I see, let's talk about this" without people reading that as "DIE IN A FIRE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DO WHAT I WANTED" and telling me I don't have a right to express my thoughts?

(I know, I know, because it's a discussion forum on the Internet. It was a rhetorical question.)

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I shudder to think of what could happen when Mike and John get tired of trying to give us things and due to all the complaints decide that we don't need anything.

If you legitimately think they didn't expect there to be some concerns about this decision, I believe you are severely underestimating them.

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Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
This is the same arguement for the 4-star exclusives in general, so is the issue you are having with Bonekeep as the exclusive, or with the exclusives in general?
Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome wrote:
Burnout happens no matter the scenario ... at that point it's more a matter of the GM recognizing their limits and being able to say "no" I need a weekend off.
I said more burnout. Midnight Mauler has several endings and a variety of approaches. In Bonekeep you can either pick "east" or "west." Yes, you will get burned out running the same thing over and over, but things like roleplay and variation--which Bonekeep lacks--will put that off a bit.

*shrug* again GMs need to know their limitations.

but that's my opinion, not going to continuously argue my opinion with people

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Patrick Harris @ MU wrote:
Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome wrote:
I get that people have concerns over various portions of this, or may be disappointed due to various portions ... however, can we please just have a day or maybe two to be grateful that we got a kick-butt boon (regardless of what you think about it) and that there is an exclusive (no matter the form).

Sure. Would you prefer to have comments on these posts locked until 48 hours have passed, or just to not read them until after that? Because this is a discussion forum on the Internet, so those are your options.

Also, why is "expressing concerns" the same thing as "complaining?" Why can't I simply say, "I have these concerns, here are the results I see, let's talk about this" without people reading that as "DIE IN A FIRE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DO WHAT I WANTED" and telling me I don't have a right to express my thoughts?

(I know, I know, because it's a discussion forum on the Internet. It was a rhetorical question.)

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I shudder to think of what could happen when Mike and John get tired of trying to give us things and due to all the complaints decide that we don't need anything.
If you legitimately think they didn't expect there to be some concerns about this decision, I believe you are severely underestimating them.

Patrick, in all honesty ... I get where you're at. I really do. And I get what you're saying. Please allow me to interject that I think you're reacting a bit strongly over something that really honestly isn't that big of a deal.

Personally I'm going to go to lunch and forget this thread exists. My excitement over something new has been dampened.

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There seems to be a lot of discussion here - especially about Bonekeep - so lets add my take:

The boon - haven't seen it yet but people seem exited. Also a nice addition is that you can add a second one for every 50 credits beyond 150 - I'm close to 200 and suddenly the 200 mark becomes something to track.

Bonekeep - I'm in the group of people who avoided it so far - but I'm actually exited that it will be available. Please let me explain:

Bonekeep isn't my style of play that I normally do. I was at one convention that offered it and avoided it both to GM and to play. There were enough 'enthusiasts' who queued up already - so I was happy to give my place to someone else and play a normal scenario.

Having said this - I do have at least one character I would like to try in this adventure - a barbarian with lots of feats that only kick in at negative HP and that have hardly ever been triggered. With enough prestige and knowing what I'm up against I'm intrigued to give it a try.

The change now makes it more likely I can try this at a small convention or with a hand picked group of players. It also means I can offer it at a small convention to a group I feel are up to it / want to experience it.

Here in the UK there have been not many conventions that would have qualified. The local style at the wargame club was to make up characters and get them killed. This is antithesis to developing them - like I think PFS should encourage - but once and again it is nice to have the option.

And that is the important part - having the option !!

I did prep 4-Ex for my home group - and pulled it last minute as I didn't feel they were up to it. Could have been the specific day with only limited players / weak players - but after prepping I felt - that will likely result in a group disappointed.

What has this to do with Bonekeep? As I said above - I have the option !! I can offer it if I feel I have the right group who enjoys it - and that is great. But I don't feel forced.

Overall I feel sorry for Mike. The whole PFS has grown to a size that makes it difficult to appeal to all fringes and play styles. There will be times you like something more - there will be times you like something less.

But please never forget that Mike tries hard and how much PFS has given us in regard to fun times at the table - otherwise we wouldn't be discussing here.

Maybe it can't be always what you want. With Bonekeep there are aspects I might not like - but the glass is more than half full. Not for me to discuss the empty part as it distracts to enjoy what is on offer.

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