Whatcha Want, Fiction Fans?

Thursday, November 7, 2013

Pathfinder Tales has been going strong for a couple of years now, and I'm happy to say that I'm still just as excited about it as when it first launched. We've gone from werewolves in Ustalav to the Outer Planes, an evil magical academy in Nidal to the high seas. In the months to come, we've got vikings and barbarians, bardic super-spies, soul-stealing in Kaer Maga, and more.

Yet we're still just scratching the surface. Which is why I want to know: What do you want to see from Pathfinder Tales? Is there a certain class or race you want to read about? Do you have a favorite nation we haven't been to yet—or one you can't wait to visit again? Are there certain types of stories you're pining for? Here at Paizo Fiction Headquarters, we're always trying to figure out what people will be most interested in—which means that our jobs are way easier if you tell us.

So sound off, fiction-lovers: What do you want to see more of from the Pathfinder Tales line?

James L. Sutter
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I think Varian would kind of be offended that such a being even gets to control magic. The only way his value system would take it in would be to consider Hendregan royalty, on account of being the son of some type of elemental Queen.

Radovan would just think he's crazy. Maybe useful, but also dangerous.

Hendregan would like Radovan, because he'd somehow sense Norge and his sigil of fire.

Grand Lodge

Hello,

I'm pretty new to the Pathfinder world so thought I would start absorbing the fiction line.

I first played the game at a con a couple of weeks ago. One of the games was We Be Goblins which while I was apprehensive at first (I wanted to play my newly made character!), I ended up loving!

Please excuse me if there are already novels on Pathfinder's goblin characters, but unfortunately I cannot find them so far. If there are, can you recommend them to me? If there aren't any, and I am suspecting that unfortunately this is the case, I would like to recommend a Goblin point of view story, perhaps life in a clan, etc. etc.

Cheers!


CaptHowdy wrote:

Hello,

I'm pretty new to the Pathfinder world so thought I would start absorbing the fiction line.

I first played the game at a con a couple of weeks ago. One of the games was We Be Goblins which while I was apprehensive at first (I wanted to play my newly made character!), I ended up loving!

Please excuse me if there are already novels on Pathfinder's goblin characters, but unfortunately I cannot find them so far. If there are, can you recommend them to me? If there aren't any, and I am suspecting that unfortunately this is the case, I would like to recommend a Goblin point of view story, perhaps life in a clan, etc. etc.

Cheers!

There's no novels that feature goblins, but there are comics where they are the main characters.


Where are the stories of the Knights, Paladins, Cavaliers? How about a storyline similar to (Dragonlance-Knights of Solamnia)? There is plenty of intrigue to be played out when you mix religiion and politics, not to mention you throw in different races all vying for power. An Age old story.

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Gnslngr13 wrote:
Where are the stories of the Knights, Paladins, Cavaliers?

There are plenty of knights and paladins in King of Chaos.


Plague of Shadows has a paladin supporting character, I think.

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Kajehase wrote:
Plague of Shadows has a paladin supporting character, I think.

As does The Worldwound Gambit, come to think of it.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Queen of Thorns has a paladin, too.


A "Once More Into the Breach My Friends" type charismatic cavalier could be fun to read about, though.


I'd like to see:
-a(nother) trip to Osirion
-more Galt
-more Cheliax
-some adventuring clerics

-Aaron


A dwarf main character. I would love to read about the political intrigues of Janderhoff.

Also maybe a book from the perspective of a student at an Arcane college.

Geb! I want to see Geb!

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Yan Grorson wrote:

Also maybe a book from the perspective of a student at an Arcane college.

Nightglass covers some of this. As does the tie-in web fiction, the title of which I have forgotten.

(It's a creepy, evil arcane college, but aren't they all?)

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A book set solely in the lands of the linnorm kings. Lots of adventure zones there.

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Danubus wrote:
A book set solely in the lands of the linnorm kings. Lots of adventure zones there.

Skinwalkers should scratch at least some of that itch in February! :D

Grand Lodge

I second Dnubus about a book set solely in the Land of the Linnorm Kings. And with Ulfens.

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Ross Byers wrote:
Yan Grorson wrote:

Also maybe a book from the perspective of a student at an Arcane college.

Nightglass covers some of this. As does the tie-in web fiction, the title of which I have forgotten.

(It's a creepy, evil arcane college, but aren't they all?)

Uh oh, Someone hasn't read the most popular fantasy novels of recent times...

:b

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

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GeraintElberion wrote:
Ross Byers wrote:
Yan Grorson wrote:

Also maybe a book from the perspective of a student at an Arcane college.

Nightglass covers some of this. As does the tie-in web fiction, the title of which I have forgotten.

(It's a creepy, evil arcane college, but aren't they all?)

Uh oh, Someone hasn't read the most popular fantasy novels of recent times...

:b

I stand by my statement.

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Aw c'mon, you can have nice magic schools.

I mean, atleast Roke is pretty lovely.

Some of the time.

Sort of.

...

...

damnit!

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ubiquitous wrote:

I really enjoyed the Inheritance web fiction, as it delves into a few elements I'd like to see more of:

1. Female adventuring pair, huzzah!
2. Non-human narrators. It really helps give a perspective as to what humans are like compared with other races, rather essential for properly portraying a human-centric world like Golarion.
3. Non-heroic narrator. It's not that Zae isn't a capable cleric of Brigh, but she's not a demon-slaying, holy sword-wielding champion of justice and badassery. It takes the average to emphasise the exceptional.

Thank you so much!

I love writing all those elements, so... :)

-Gabrielle


I would like to see an Anthology book featuring some of the weekly web fiction that gets released. I don't tend to read eBooks much because I just prefer physical books.


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I would love to see a novel with the main character being a priest of Calistria.

I would also love to see a novel featuring the drow.

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To steal from the Scrying on the villain thread. Wouldn't the kingdom's superscryer lead an interesting life? Seeing the fallout from the NSA/Snowden debacle, there has to be a Golarion equivalent of big brother state with the scryers fleeing.


Ross Byers wrote:

I think Varian would kind of be offended that such a being even gets to control magic. The only way his value system would take it in would be to consider Hendregan royalty, on account of being the son of some type of elemental Queen.

Radovan would just think he's crazy. Maybe useful, but also dangerous.

Hendregan would like Radovan, because he'd somehow sense Norge and his sigil of fire.

Good observation...

Scarab Sages

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I want paizo to get Paul S Kemp to write some Pathfinder fiction. Don't care where!

Shadow Lodge

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Something I would like to see is more traditional parties and characters in "lower level" stories. A few novels that could be used to get people into the game and explain the world and common organizations and events without them being mostly backdrop. A lot less morally meh/antiheroes/scoundrelish and much more common-man in uncommon situations sort of characters and parties. I'm a little less interested in the special location a novel might tae place or the specific gimmick it (indirectly or directly) takes place around, and more the party dynamics, world exploration, and interesting dilemmas they face.

I'd also love to see a group of (main characters) that have an Oracle, goodish Cleric, and Paladin that focuses a lot of their differences of faith and philosophies, and the various issues that they face, and what ground they need to give to work together.

I'd love a novel about the politics between Andoran, Cheliax, and Taldor characters, (or something like that), where none of them are bards, rogues, or similar "classes". Maybe an older Andoran warrior starting to question if their battles and actions have really been for the greater (andoran) good or mattered, a young Chelish mage wanting power and station but not sure if the darker path is for them, and a Taldan priest burdened by the Empire's failures and less than righteous goals and methods, but all still loyal to and invested in their nations, and with a history to make it work.

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I know James Sutter commented that specific requests are more difficult to implement, but I do have specific preferences.

Paladins that are native to Cheliax (and maybe even proud of their country.
Paladins of Abadar and Shelyn
Holy Gun and Divine Archer (Paladin archetypes)
Inquisitors
Arcane casters in service to a church
Empyreal/Celestial sorcerers
Crusaders (Cleric Archetype)
Oracles, preferably dual-cursed.
LN followers of an evil faith: how do they do it ?
Cavaliers of the Order of the Star

Silver Crusade

Chief Cook and Bottlewasher wrote:

It's quite a feat for a single author to give equal weight to 4 PC's

I thought Queen of Thorns did that pretty well. And let's not forget

Gaunt's Ghosts, Game of Thrones. While the latter two do not focus on a single party, they do show how easy it is to make more than two characters PC's

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n o 417 wrote:

Arcane casters in service to a church

Empyreal/Celestial sorcerers

To riff on this, definitely some divine oriented characters who are *not* divine spellcasters, and yet are in some way affected / influenced by their faith.

Arcane 'theurgy' has always been an interest, and I could see many churches (and not just those of magic-friendly gods like Nethys) having temple wizards, who might have some differences of their own, such as unique spells, or even the ability to choose a Domain instead of their usual specialization / universalist abilities (or a familiar based on the 'holy animal' of their church).

n o 417 wrote:

LN followers of an evil faith: how do they do it?

Definitely also this. A non-evil (or even good!) bard, rogue or alchemist who follows Norgorber (as partron of secrets, thieves or alchemy, if not murder!), or a LN monk who practices mortification techniques relevant to his Kuthonite faith, could be an interesting twist.

Also playing against type, foes that are evil followers of non-evil gods, such as a NE group of Gozrens or Pharasmins or Abadarites or even Irorians. (Calistria and Gorum and Nethys are already a bit 'evil-friendlier' than the others, and might not be as interesting.)

Also, playing up religious stuff and the 'one-step rule,' a NG follower of someone like Pharasma, at least partially at odds with the core tenets of her cold and impartial (and somewhat merciless) faith and church, could be intriguing, or a LG Paladin of Abadar, having to put up with a mercenary wealth-obsessed church hierarchy, or a LG Paladin of Sarenrae, having to put up with a (to his mind) naïve and unrealistic church hierarchy dominated by undisciplined and ineffectual 'redeemers.' A CG Gorumite dealing with the more warmongery sorts in his own faith.

Combining such extremes, such as having a NG Pharasmin in a group opposing a NE Pharasmin cult, with no sanction from her own N church (who consider her NG leanings no more or less valid than the NE groups interpretations of Pharasmin doctrine), could make for a much more in depth exploration of the intricacies inherent to the setting.

Instead of 'Iomedan always good-guy' and 'Urgathoan always bad-guy,' some nuance could be cool.


Some more ideas for novels for you illustrious authors at Paizo Publishing:

Reinhardt: A valiant male warpriest of Cayden Cailean who has been tasked with leading a band of five adventurers to a newly constructed Hellknight Citadel in order to rescue Thais from being sacrificed.

Shadow: A male human hunter/slayer who comes and goes like the wind but will lend his skill at silting throats and the fangs of his loyal collie dog companion...IF the price is RIGHT that is.

Thrall: A male Trox fighter who escaped the gladiatorial arenas of the Drow by being rescued by adventurers. He is loyal and honorable, an absolute terror to slavers, and is far from stupid or naive.

Ianten: A male aasimar paladin of Torag who is valorous and kind and wishes to protect those dear to him but is despised by many as he is the adopted child of two prominent dwarves of the Five Kings Mountains.

Thorik: A heroic and kind male dwarf foehammer who went against the isolationist ways of his people and adopted an orphaned Aasimar infant (whom Thorik and his wife Belkara raised as their beloved son).

Belkara: A protective and loving female dwarf merciful healer of Bolka who (along with her husband Thorik) adopted and raised an aasimar infant named Ianten and is deeply supportive of her son.

Goku: A male whitecape Vanara monk who is a practitioner of multiple martial arts styles and loves nothing more than strong drink, fine company, and a good fight or two before bed as a nightcap.

Yaki: This female Wayang sorcerer has been tasked with a mission by her people to find "the light in the darkness" and bring it back to her tribe's hidden sacred temple to present to her teacher.

Sanako: A female Samsaran merciful healer who worships Qi Zhong and believes it is her duty to heal the good folk of Tian Xia and is normally quite, reserved, and reflectional (though she despises all undead).

Yoshi: This male Nagaji ronin serves no noble lord but possess a spirit as strong as steel and a heart as noble as any hero and if he finds a mission just and honorable then he will lend his katanas to serve the cause.

Kurisutaru: This friendly and beautiful female Kitsune sorcerer possesses exotic white fur and a mastery of ice magic that even the winter witches of Irrisen are hard pressed to match.

Neia: This female Ratfolk ninja hates Oni as well as all other evil outsiders and will go out of her way to end their existence on the Material Plane (so long as she can ensure she lives to tell the tale).

Elicia Stormraven: This female human paladin (warrior of the holy light) is rumored to be a godling of Iomedae for she possesses mythic power and has achieved feats of heroism that rival the mightiest of heroes.

Metterak: The "Dragon Prince"; this mythic great wyrm red dragon is quite possible the most terrifying threat to all civilized lands to emerge out of the North and he seeks nothing less than to ascend to godhood.


I'd like to see some good dragons. We've had a:

Green Dragon:
Queen of Thorns

Frost Linnorn:
Bastard, Sword

Black Dragon:
The second story arc of Pathfinder Comics

and
Warning, fairly major spoiler!!:
a White Dragon in Liars Blade

Lets see some metallic dragons!!

Managing Editor

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Itchy wrote:


Lets see some metallic dragons!!

Dave and I have you covered. Stay tuned. :D


James Sutter wrote:
Dave and I have you covered. Stay tuned. :D

:O

Excellent! The last thing I heard from Dave Gross was right after King of Chaos when he said that he did not have another Radovan/Jeggare novel on his docket. Plans for the eventuality, yes, but no contract. It will be good to see the boys come back, especially since I just started re-reading their full story line.

Of course, Dave Gross could also write a book that did not include Varian Jeggare and Radovan. However, I think that he also hinted (well, more winked at someone else hinting) that

Somewhat Major Spoilers!!!!!:
The end of King of Chaos was a bit of a restart for the boys in new classes. Varian Jeggare as a Sorcerer and Radovan as a Summoner.

-Aaron

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Metaspoiler:
Every time someone suggests that Radovan is actually a summoner, I want to don my best Arnold and bellow, "It's not an eidolon!"

On the other hand, it's nice to have that avenue open. :) One of the great things about Pathfinder readers is that they often see angles I hadn't considered. Publicly, of course, I'll say I'm just that clever.

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Amusingly King of Chaos fits at least one of them for a class that didn't even exist at the time of writing.

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Matthew Morris wrote:
Amusingly King of Chaos fits at least one of them for a class that didn't even exist at the time of writing.

Which isn't the first time that's happened to one of my characters. That's the beauty of an evolving game system like Pathfinder.

spoiler:
I'm thinking of Azra, who seemed to be an oracle before oracles existed.


Berselius wrote:
Some more ideas for novels for you illustrious authors at Paizo Publishing:

Something tells me all of these are no-gos for copyright reasons ;) Was fun though to read over the list and see which ones I recognized and which ones I didn't.

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Orthos wrote:
Berselius wrote:
Some more ideas for novels for you illustrious authors at Paizo Publishing:
Something tells me all of these are no-gos for copyright reasons ;) Was fun though to read over the list and see which ones I recognized and which ones I didn't.

Orthos speaks the truth. If you give us an exact plot and character you want to see, you're pretty much guaranteeing that you *won't* see them for legal reasons (as well as the larger reason that authors generally like to come up with their own ideas). That's why story *elements* are much better requests to make, as it's easy for me to say "Hey authors, everybody seems to want to see tengu--anybody want to write about them?" But I do appreciate the effort and excitement about the line!


Well my comment was more in regards to all his characters being taken from various video games, books, or TV shows, with only slight adjustments so they were still pretty clear and obvious where they were taken from (if you're familiar with the material).

For example, Shadow is from Final Fantasy VI (though in the game his dog was a Doberman not a Collie, named Interceptor), Goku is from the anime Dragon Ball, Thrall is obviously from Warcraft, and Yoshi (I think) is Yoshimitsu from the Tekken and Soul Calibur games.


I'd love some Taldor stories: something political, with knights, beards, the Ulfen Guard, the efforts to become a great power again, secrets, etc.

I think the "bad guys as leads" or at best mercenary a-holes would be really interesting - something like a Chelaxian adventuring party of 4-6 exploring Osirion and other locales for treasure? The Pact Stone Pyramid in novel form?

Other random items:

Monks
"Westerns" as mentioned above
Hellknights (as protagonists)
Aspodell Rangers
female leads
Paul Kemp


Lord Zeb wrote:

I'd love some Taldor stories: something political, with knights, beards, the Ulfen Guard, the efforts to become a great power again, secrets, etc.

I think the "bad guys as leads" or at best mercenary a-holes would be really interesting - something like a Chelaxian adventuring party of 4-6 exploring Osirion and other locales for treasure? The Pact Stone Pyramid in novel form?

Other random items:

Monks
"Westerns" as mentioned above
Hellknights (as protagonists)
Aspodell Rangers
female leads
Paul Kemp

Some of your ideas have been covered in other books already. That's not to say that I wouldn't enjoy seeing more of any of them. Note: Some of these are novels, others are web fiction, others are AP fiction. I don't think my lists are exhaustive.

"Bad Guys" as leads: The Worldwound Gambit, Bastard, Sword, Liar's Blade, The Irregulars, Krunzle the Quick, Song of the Serpent, and The Treasure of Far Thallai

Monks: Master of Devils

Westerns: The Guns of Alkenstar

Hellknights as Protagonists: Noble Sacrifice

Female Leads: Plague of Shadows, Stalking the Beast, In the Event of My Untimely Demise, Blood of the City, Mother Bears, Skinwalkers, The Wizard's Mask, The Box, Light of a Distant Star, Guilty Blood, Shattered Steel, Queen of Thorns, King of Chaos, In Red Rune Canyon, Called to Darkness, and Dark Tapestry

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Lord Zeb wrote:
I'd love some Taldor stories: something political, with knights, beards, the Ulfen Guard, the efforts to become a great power again, secrets, etc.

"The Dagger of Trust" should scratch your Taldan itch, and it was just released. :D

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Liz Courts wrote:
Lord Zeb wrote:
I'd love some Taldor stories: something political, with knights, beards, the Ulfen Guard, the efforts to become a great power again, secrets, etc.
"The Dagger of Trust" should scratch your Taldan itch, and it was just released. :D

Liz is absolutely right--The Dagger of Trust is full to the brim with Taldan politics and intrigue!


Dave Gross wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:
Amusingly King of Chaos fits at least one of them for a class that didn't even exist at the time of writing.

Which isn't the first time that's happened to one of my characters. That's the beauty of an evolving game system like Pathfinder.

** spoiler omitted **

I could have sworn Jeggare was working out to be a Monk/Magus somehow in Master of Devils...

Almost kind of a let-down that he was a sorcerer. But that's just me. Still loved the books!

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So you think he's a sorcerer? ;)

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James Sutter wrote:
Liz Courts wrote:
Lord Zeb wrote:
I'd love some Taldor stories: something political, with knights, beards, the Ulfen Guard, the efforts to become a great power again, secrets, etc.
"The Dagger of Trust" should scratch your Taldan itch, and it was just released. :D
Liz is absolutely right--The Dagger of Trust is full to the brim with Taldan politics and intrigue!

Oh gods yes. Dagger of Trust is chock full of Taldan goodness and bardish awesomeness.


This is probably my inner grognard rumbling but I'd love to see an "olde school" party adventure - four to six characters with a reason to be hanging together, plugging away in tumble-down dungeon. Traps, dead-ends, pitfalls, pratfalls & wandering monsters. Treasure!

As an aside, I'd love to read a really good description of a knock down, drag out stoush between two magic-users (in my experience, they usually go one of two ways - ZAP! BLAMMO! Greasy smear. Or, half an hour later, two lean, exhausted beardy guys poking away at each other with daggers...


Olbere wrote:
This is probably my inner grognard rumbling but I'd love to see an "olde school" party adventure - four to six characters with a reason to be hanging together, plugging away in tumble-down dungeon. Traps, dead-ends, pitfalls, pratfalls & wandering monsters. Treasure!

Plague of Shadows has a bit of the party of adventurers with a reason to be together going into a tumble down old dungeon. Stalking the Beast and King of Chaos also have parties of adventurers (a tad larger than 4 to 6, though) with good reasons to be together. Worldwound Gambit has a party slightly larger than 6, but they get to plug their way through a dungeon that is... well read the book and find out!

That said, I enjoy books with large casts and would enjoy seeing more of them.

Olbere wrote:
As an aside, I'd love to read a really good description of a knock down, drag out stoush between two magic-users (in my experience, they usually go one of two ways - ZAP! BLAMMO! Greasy smear. Or, half an hour later, two lean, exhausted beardy guys poking away at each other with daggers...

The only place that I can think of where we have seen something like this is in Krunzle the Quick.

-Aaron


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I'd like to see a book with Goblins in it. I don't mind if they are not in it for long, as long as they are in it. I really enjoyed most of the Goblins comics. I think they would be fun to see in prose too!

It would be fun to see some more minotaurs. I'm aware that there was a minotaur crew member on the Stargazer, but it might be fun to see one play a more major role in a story.

More fey! I like the fey, I'd like to see more of them!

-Aaron

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I don't know if it has been said before, though I am sure it has, I would love to see novelization of Rise of the Rune Lords. Or any other adventure path. But RotRL would definitley have to be the first.


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I would love to see books set in the past. Stories about the rise of house Thrune, survivors during the Age of Darkness, tales from Azlanti and Thassilion, the rise and fall of the Taldan Empire, and other periods of history.

I would also love to see stories set on other planets.

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