due you have any source for this at all? I consider myself pretty well read up on mythology....and am not familiar with a figure that resembles that.
It seems he was believed to be one of the Tuatha Dé Danann by the Scottish. They name him Luhdrak or something like that in most of their stories.
The Irish just call him the "Wood Walker" in their language. The Gauls called him the "King of the Woods".
But I can't find any source calling him Grandfather Autumn anymore... Maybe that is just a local name like how Baba Yaga was only called Grandmother Winter in a small region until major trading expanded the region on influence.
Sounds like a high CR fey, so I like the sound of this grandfather autumn guy.
Given the powers I have heard attributed to him he would be CR 15-16 with Druid Spells and the ability to teleport short distances and Summon Treants and maybe a couple of other forest fey.
Lugh? That is about as close as I can get to Lughdrak among the Tuatha De Danann. Even then he pretty much doesn't fit at all with what you describe.
I might have butchered the name... That is what his name sounded like when my Cousin over in Scotland said it.
Heck, it might not even be that short.
Lugh? That is about as close as I can get to Lughdrak among the Tuatha De Danann. Even then he pretty much doesn't fit at all with what you describe.
Only other one I could think of that's close is Luchta (or Luchtaine). Again, he doesn't fit though, given that he was one of the three weaponcrafters of the Tuatha De Danaan, along with his brothers Goibniu and Creidhne. Specifically, Luchta was their woodworker.
I might have butchered the name... That is what his name sounded like when my Cousin over in Scotland said it.
Heck, it might not even be that short.
The problem is that none of the Tuatha De Danaan seem to fit this description. At least not that I can recall. A quick search hasn't given me anything either.
Azaelas' sources are sometimes so obscure some people believe he has no legitimate source.
I wonder how accurate the list of creatures are on this post and Bestiary 4 product description now that everything has been finalized.
Given the powers I have heard attributed to him he would be CR 15-16 with Druid Spells and the ability to teleport short distances and Summon Treants and maybe a couple of other forest fey.
Is it the Erlking or Erlkonig?
In the kidnap children thing
The Erlking tends to kidnap children and murder them I think, which doesn't sound like what he is going for. Also not described as a tree, but considered a forest being.
The Erlking is also a Germanic myth, not Celtic. So assuming we're going on what Azaelas said about him being one of the Tuatha De Danaan, he's out on that alone.
Well one game used the Erlking as Autumn King and pictured him with autumn leaves, that's why I asked.
Most Germanic Myths are connected to the Gauls.
And It seems "Grandfather Autumn" is a name colloquial name for a race of Fae/Fey and not an individual...
Gotta love having sources in both Irish and Scottish Gaelic. Seems they served the Tuatha De Denaan in gathering servants.
I'm really curious what will be on the first page of the bestiary (not counting the no-monster pages of course)
I'm hoping on:
Á Bao A Qu, Aatxe or Abaia
Well now we know "Grandfather Autumn" should be a CR15+ fey type creature.
I wonder what fey we will get in the Bestiary 4 other then gremlins, tooth fairies, and Leanen Sidhe.
Have the Fomorians been introduced in Pathfinder in any form yet?
No, but we don't know everthing that is Bestiary 4 yet.
But we do know JJ said that Fomorians and Fir Bolgs probably aren't going to be in pathfinder, I forgot the reason tho...
im pretty sure at least one of these were impossible to implement due to copyright reasons.
THere are no copyright reasons to this, D&D doesn't own anything about them, they are from real myths and mythology
The real myth is much better than the D&D version as well, so it aint copyright stuff.
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The Ogrekin 'mutations' strapped onto Ogres or Hill Giants could make for decent Fomorians. Add a half-dozen more deformity options (including one to look beautiful, like Bres?), and toss in some Athach, Ettins and / or Cyclopes to a Hill Giant or Ogre tribe (weaker versions, for the Ogres), and it should be good to go.
I like the ram horns on the fomorian heads in the real myth, so I hope to see them with those horns.
Is this the Necrocraft they talk about in the monster list?
Never saw this creature/art in Carrion Crown so it must be cut and later added to the Bestiary 4 list.
Can't say I really like the creature, it looks much like a demon to me.
Doesn't look anything like what I would expect a Necrocraft would look like. Which should at least be something undeadish. Right now my hypothesis is something like animated object made from the dead.
I want to say James Jacob in a more recent post had changed his mind on Fomorians/Fomor. Or at least went from: "No we don't want to interfere with 3.5 interpretations = Maybe we will do something with them"
At any rate...I have been a major supporter of including the Fomor and Firbolg in Pathfinder. They are one of the most important mythological creatures in Celtic folklore, and not including them would be like leaving out the cyclops or satyrs from greek myth, or trolls and giants from Norse myth.
I am not actually convinced Grandfather Autumn is a real thing from folklore/mythology, so I wouldn't expect to see it.
It is called Necrocraft on Deviantart... So yes I hope they changed the concept!
If they never did a Firbolg I wouldn't care that much, rather see Buggane, Bloody Bones and other such english monsters, Fomorians (the real ones, not the D&D ones) are another story tho, I really wanna see them too.
I also would like to see the Fomorians and Firbolgs get in pathfinder along with a lot of other celtic stuff.
A Celtic-themed mini-bestiary would be AWESOME. We could have fomorians, firbolg, sidhe, fachans, boobries, and so on, and also include things like venemous sheep and variant awakened giant boars (Trwch Trwth, et al.).
Hi Gancanagh.
Is there a link to the artist account? I can bring up the specific link but have trouble backtracking from there to the artist.
Kirth, they actually did a pretty accurate version of Fachan in Shattered Star. Or at least accurate to one version of it, if you are referring to the one-legged, one-eyed monster.
Celtic folklre seem to have been strangely overlooked compared to other mythologies/folklore
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Kirth, they actually did a pretty accurate version of Fachan in Shattered Star. Or at least accurate to one version of it, if you are referring to the one-legged, one-eyed monster.
There are a lot of 'classic' beasties that show up from culture to culture, like dragon, demon, ghost and vampire, but it really surprises me how many cultures have one-legged, one-armed, cut-in-half-dude as one of their beasties. I've seen Celtic, Persian and Japanese versions of this particular concept, IIRC. That seems a pretty darn specific sort of concept...
Rather than have a cut-in-half-person hopping around on one leg, I like the idea that the other half of them is in some other place (faerie realm? ethereal plane? spirit world?), out of sight and out of reach, allowing them to move interspatially (dimension door) or even 'turn sideways' and become invisible. Less 'cut in half dude' and more 'humanoid trapdoor spider, popping in from another plane to attack you.'
The best one legged monster in my opinion is the Abaasy, a demon that rides a 6 legged, 3 headed, 2 tailed wingless drake beast.
Here is the link
Deviantart link for MMCJawa
Kirth, they actually did a pretty accurate version of Fachan in Shattered Star. Or at least accurate to one version of it, if you are referring to the one-legged, one-eyed monster.
That very one! Thanks -- I've got the issue at home, and look forward to seeing what they did with it.
I like this guy, he drew two of my favorite pics of Seoni and a good one for Lini. Also that pic of the half-fiend sylph and some other really good ones.
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Sneak cameo preview from Mythic Realms: there are body-snatcher plants in 4. Like no kidding Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, Pod-People-making plants.
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The fomorians folks remember from D&D... basically, the "giant mutant" (as opposed to the "giant hillbilly" that is the hill giant or the "giant viking" that is the frost giant) are pretty much in Pathifnder now as ash giants.
The mythological fomorians are not in Pathfinder yet, and I was originally hesitant to do much with them since they're so different than the deformed D&D giant that shares their name. But the further time we put between Pathfinder and D&D, the more likely things get that I'm less and less concerned about that.
Formians, on the other hand, are entirely different. They're ant people, and their legacy goes back to the pulps—they were not invented by D&D.
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I'd love to see Balor of the Evil Eye, who's actually a fomorian and not a demon.
The confusion might be fixed with an alternate spelling of his name though, like Balar.
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I'd love to see Balor of the Evil Eye, who's actually a fomorian and not a demon.
The confusion might be fixed with an alternate spelling of his name though, like Balar.
Eh, Balor's just a name. The official rank is 'Type VI Demon.' :)
The other five Type VI's were named Alzoll, Errtu, Ndulu, Ter-Soth and Wendonai. (Errtu was the only one I remembered without looking it up, 'though, 'cause he's the one we fought, back in the day.)
Errtu was also the one Drizzt soloed, as I recall. :)
Sneak cameo preview from Mythic Realms: there are body-snatcher plants in 4. Like no kidding Invasion Of The Body Snatchers, Pod-People-making plants.Also, space dragons!
I still wonder if those are the ones i suggested in the B4 wishlist thread, when Wesley asked people to come up with a new family of dragons.
Space Dragons? There better be some Meteor Dragon among them then! And a Sun Dragon!
The only one we've seen is a Void Dragon.
Where did you see them?
The only one we've seen is a Void Dragon.
I second what Gancanagh said. Because that's the name i gave to one of them.
A mythic void dragon -- Raskineya, the Dark Comet -- is one of the nine mythic NPCs in Mythic Realms. (It's not clear to me whether void dragons are inherently mythic or if this is something that happened to her.)
EDIT: no, she had a mythic ascension, so it's not normal for them. Excuse me, I'm short on sleep.
EDIT 2: apparently they have two breath weapons -- cold and suffocation -- and victims they swallow are subjected to the vacuum of space.
Does she have a space travel ability, similar to a shantak?
"Starflight" speed, and breathless special quality.
But nothing with meteors? As that's in the name? The Dark Comet