Is wild empathy now the equivalent of speak with animals?


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion

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The Player Core description for the druid feat (and, to a lesser extent, the ranger feat) reads that way to me, but I'm curious what others think.


Speak with Animals looks to be a lesser version of the feat.

Both give you:

Quote:
You can ask questions of, receive answers from, and use the Diplomacy skill with animals.

But Speak with Animals continues to say:

Speak with Animals wrote:
The spell doesn't make them more friendly than normal. Cunning animals are likely to be terse and evasive, while less intelligent ones often make inane comments.

and Animal Empathy only says:

Animal Empathy wrote:
In most cases, wild animals will give you time to make your case.

So in good circumstances, the two will have the same effect - being able to use diplomacy and make requests of a friendly animal. But in a less good case, Animal Empathy will let you do it to an unfriendly animal.


Also, I don't think the rules changed all that much. Wild Empathy was renamed Animal Empathy and Druid got a choice to get either Animal Empathy or an equivalent of Plant Empathy.

The similarities and differences between Wild Empathy and Speak With Animals was already there pre-Remaster.

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