Unhallowed Creature


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the template Unhallowed Creature is kinda vague if im reading it clearly !?

it says it includes the effects of the unhallow spell and its magic circle against good effect, and applies to all undead creatures in the area of effect of an unhallow spell...

so does that mean you get the unhallow spell right ? the unhallow spell has a list of spells ...

Spell effects that may be tied to an unhallowed site include aid, bane, bless, cause fear, darkness, daylight, death ward, deeper darkness, detect magic, detect good, dimensional anchor, discern lies, dispel magic, endure elements, freedom of movement, invisibility purge, protection from energy, remove fear, resist energy, silence, tongues, and zone of truth.

The Exchange

What book is that template from? I'm not familiar with it and it does not appear under the monster templates on Archives of Nethys.


its on the pfsrd! https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/unhallowed-cre ature-cr-0

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MR CRITICAL wrote:
its on the pfsrd! https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/unhallowed-cre ature-cr-0

It's from Shadows of Gallowspire (Carrion Crown book 6).

That particular template appears in one unique location that the PCs journey to during that adventure. Essentially the whole area is under an unhallow. The Unhallowed Creature template was included in the adventure simply as a reference to the GM reminding what to add to all undead in the area.

In other words: that's not a template for normal use. It's just a shorthand reference for the effects in that one location.

Spoiler:
There's also a "Shrine-Blessed Creature" template in that adventure. It's used the same way. Certain areas of the site are also under a desecrate spell. So the template is just a reminder of what the total bonuses for an undead in the area of both the unhallow and the desecrate are, since some of the bonuses overlap.


this is an undead game my gm is allowing all pazio templates just wanted to know if i was reading it clearly or not??

The Exchange

It's not actually a template.

It's just a reference for what bonuses an undead would get in the area of an unhallow spell. There's no way for an undead to keep the "template" outside of the effect of an unhallow.

Actual spoiler of Shadows of Gallowspire:

Quote:
The following two templates are provided to facilitate applying the various bonuses from these effects, since the PCs may very well counter or dispel these effects in some areas as they adventure. The unhallowed creature template includes the effects of the unhallow spell and its magic circle against good effect, and applies to all undead creatures while they are on the grounds of the abbey. The shrine-blessed creature template includes all of those bonuses plus the effects of a shrine-enhanced desecrate spell, and applies only in those areas containing desecrated shrines (areas E5, E7, E8, F8, F19, and F21).


it says it's a template doesn't it give the unhallow spell?

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MR CRITICAL wrote:
it says it's a template doesn't it give the unhallow spell?

Per Belafon's post, it's actually the exact opposite: The Unhallow spell effectively grants the 'template' while the undead creature is in the unhallowed area. Should the Unhallow spell be lost (by being dispelled or the undead leaving the area of effect), the creature loses the 'template'.

This 'template' exists to make life a little easier for GMs by rolling a set of essentially permanent buffs into the creature's base stat block.

Things that should set off the 'something is not right' alarms in your head:

  • a) This 'template' is not listed in the Monster Template list on Archives of Nethys (which is the official online repository of PF material).
  • b) It's a CR+0 (i.e. free) template that grants a significant buff (which is inherently unbalanced).
  • c) It's from an adventure rather than a rulebook or monster compendium.


if the unhallow spell is coming from the creature how can the undead leave the area of effect),if its on the creature ?? i can understand dispelling the creature tho'

The Exchange

Because the unhallow is not coming from the creature.

I don’t know how to explain it any better than I have above. The “template” isn’t really a template. The PCs are adventuring in an area that is unhallow’ed. The area is unhallow, not the creatures inside it. The “template” is just a quick reference for the GM on what bonuses to add to undead in the area.

It’s really easy to see if you read the book.


i don't have the book but the gm is letting pc's use templates


This is a quick way for a GM to add the effects of the spell to a undead creature. The description of the template even states it applies to all undead in the area of effect of an Unhallow spell. It is not a template in the traditional way that creates a modified creature; it is simply a quick way to add the adjustments of the spell to an undead that happens to be in the area that is affected by the spell.


the gm is running an undead game that's y im asking and allowing templates


MR CRITICAL wrote:
the gm is running an undead game that's y im asking and allowing templates

It's not a useable template.

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