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So I'm in a bit of a quandary, this character dates back to 2nd edition, and one of the last things in 2nd Ed that happened was that my character found a Golden Bridle, that gained him a Pegasus mount.

Fast forward to 3.5E (and many years in between of increased adventure), my character saved the princess by valiantly flying in on his Pegasus mount and all that goodness, thanks in part to the Wild Cohort feat from RotW. Absolutely fantastic feat that actually let my little 6HD pegasus survive in encounters that my 13th level cleric was rolling around in. Character married the princess, picked up leadership to get a competent mage to stay home and tend to the keep while I'm off doing my heroic adventure stuff, landlord to actually let me afford to build a castle in 3.5, etc. Life was rocking well for my Cleric.

Then I left the country for 10 years while the DM converted his game over to Pathfinder, lots of life happened in between and now I'm back converting my cleric over to Pathfinder, coupled with the next encounter he'll take part in is a Shadow Dragon coming to attack the town as revenge for us killing him. I kinda wanna be able to fly, but at the same time, I also don't want my Pegasus to get sneezed on and die.

So I'm a little stuck. I've already taken leadership to keep my loyal retainer back at the castle, as well as the small army I need to keep as a landed, titled lord and all that. Leadership as a feat says I can't take it a second time, and Wild Cohort doesn't seem to exist in Pathfinder.

So to make a long story short (too late), how can I make my Pegasus into an animal companion / mount RAW, as a 13th level cleric to an Elven-good-aligned-deity-who-shall-not-be-named-because-OGL-IP-yadda-yadda reasons without sacrificing class levels?

Dark Archive

Animal domain, monstrous mount and monstrous mount mastery feats. use hippogriff stats.

monstrous mount


Planar ally to call up a celestial pegasus, or half celestial or whatever.


Sounds like you need GM help to keep your character concept viable. You'll probably only need a pegasus with extra hit dice. Though the GM might have to do favors for the other characters to keep it fair.


Name Violation wrote:

Animal domain, monstrous mount and monstrous mount mastery feats. use hippogriff stats.

monstrous mount

This sounds like the best option. Just to be clear though, the feat requirements say specifically "hunter's bond" or a mount class feature.

Is there any specific errata or official clarification that the animal companion granted by the animal domain satisfies this requirement? In spirit, I can completely agree that it would, but it could be interpreted as not meeting the requirement if you go with a militant interpretation.


Since the character originated in 2nd edition have you considered using something besides cleric for his class? Some of them may actually work better for that old of a character. Several divine based caster classes can gain access to a mount. A Divine commander warpriest gets a mount, as does a Oracle of Nature.

Warpiest may be the way to go. I would mean less magic power but better combat ability.


Mysterious Stranger wrote:

Since the character originated in 2nd edition have you considered using something besides cleric for his class? Some of them may actually work better for that old of a character. Several divine based caster classes can gain access to a mount. A Divine commander warpriest gets a mount, as does a Oracle of Nature.

Warpiest may be the way to go. I would mean less magic power but better combat ability.

My GM overall is pretty reasonable. That said, changing class levels is a bit much.

He doesn't mind making exceptions, he's just careful about making said exceptions too often, which is why I'm trying to find a RAW way of doing it that doesn't set precedent, or asterisks we have to keep track of forever. If we can't find a RAW way of doing it (being able to do it in PCGen is one rules verification method he likes to use), then we'll explore other possibilities.

So far here's where I'm at:
1) I add up a share of the XP for all the encounters he's been in and just level him up normally with class levels using the rules for cohorts gaining xp under the leadership feat. Anything else, I wonder if power leveling is a thing in Pathfinder? Can I just buff the hell out of him and let him go farm CR6-8 encounters until he hits 10th level or something?

2) Animal Domain is a little grey because Animal isn't part of my deity's domain list, but isn't too big of a stretch. As mentioned above, Monstrous Mount is the proper way to do it, but would involve me dropping one of my existing domains, and spending 2 feats to accomplish what 1 feat used to. RAI, I'd say the Animal domain does qualify for the feat, but RAW it seems not, unless that's errata'ed somewhere.

3) Take Leadership a 2nd time with my mount being my cohort. Requires a mulligan, but is the most reasonable, easy solution.

4) Monstrous Cohort, again, requires a mulligan but seriously what the hell were they thinking with this feat? At 13th level with the Animal Domain, I get an ECL of 6, which barely qualifies as a pegasus out the book with his 4HD?? REALLY?! Who thought this would be actually useful? MAYBE if the feat said "okay, you have to have ECL, then you pick an fancy animal companion and THEN add your animal companion bonuses as normal," we'd be styling. As it reads though, this is just.... yuck!

5) Divine Commander Warpriest is cool and is thematically what my Cleric already is, except I really don't want to lose 7th+ level spells. Granted, with the amount of gear I've got, I'd be one hell of a wrecking ball.

Shadow Lodge

There is the feat-based option, but it will take a lot of them:
Nature Soul - prerequisite
Animal Ally - grants a weak animal companion
Boon Companion - brings your companion up to full power
Monstrous Companion - broadens your Animal Companion options to include a Pegasus.

Alternately, Animal Domain + Boon Companion + Monstrous Companion should work.

Just keep in mind that are looking for a major class feature to be tacked onto another class, so there has to be a 'price to pay' for the sake of game balance.

EDIT - Okay, just noticed that Leadership and Monstrous Companion are mutually exclusive, so this won't actually work...


To fix the level-3 issue you need Boon Companion.


In second edition D&D the classes functioned much differently than they do in Pathfinder. A class other than cleric could be closer to what the character originally was. If I remember correctly clerics where able to use any armor and often had a better selection of weapons, they were proficient in. If that is the case a warpriest might actually be a better choice for the character than cleric. An oracle is a spontaneous divine caster so that could also work for the character. It is not so much about changing the character but finding the right class to represent the character.


Honestly given that Pathfinder 1e is backwards compatible and there are in fact various DnD3.5e options, you can just bring back the Wild Cohort feat.

You could also ask your GM if he would allow you to take the Cavalier's Beast Rider archetype (just 1 level) allowing Pegasus. That archetype already allows Tyrannosaurus, which is normally a CR9 creature.

You could take Beast Speaker instead of Monster Cohort. This would let you have Pagasus as a companion by level 7 with boon companion. You then have to take the Mastery feat to get the ability to ride it, basing Pegasus on Hipogriff.

Anyway you cut it you will need to spend a considerable amount of resources. Luckily you aren't trying to get something more exotic, cause then you really would need to homebrew.


Why don't you ask your GM to retrain leadership to gain recruit, so you can have up to half your lvl in cohorts 4 lvl lower if you are lvl 13 that mean you will have 6 cohorts lvl 9 if they all have leadership then you already have the army, as for the pegasus just buy/create some good items for her to use so he can survive

Dark Archive

Temperans wrote:

Honestly given that Pathfinder 1e is backwards compatible and there are in fact various DnD3.5e options, you can just bring back the Wild Cohort feat.

You could also ask your GM if he would allow you to take the Cavalier's Beast Rider archetype (just 1 level) allowing Pegasus. That archetype already allows Tyrannosaurus, which is normally a CR9 creature.

You could take Beast Speaker instead of Monster Cohort. This would let you have Pagasus as a companion by level 7 with boon companion. You then have to take the Mastery feat to get the ability to ride it, basing Pegasus on Hipogriff.

Anyway you cut it you will need to spend a considerable amount of resources. Luckily you aren't trying to get something more exotic, cause then you really would need to homebrew.

beast speaker only allows Basilisk, Behir, Bulette, Death worm and sun falcon. Hipogriff is from a different i listed above

beast rider cavalier doesnt get the ability to choose anything other than the standard option until level 4

beast rider wrote:
Medium beast riders can choose a camel or horse mount at 1st level. At 4th level, a Medium beast rider can also choose an allosaurus, ankylosaurus, arsinoitherium, aurochs, bison, brachiosaurus, elephant, glyptodon, hippopotamus, lion, mastodon, megaloceros, snapping turtle (giant), tiger, triceratops, or tyrannosaurus as his mount. Additional mounts might be available with GM approval.


Name Violation wrote:
Temperans wrote:

Honestly given that Pathfinder 1e is backwards compatible and there are in fact various DnD3.5e options, you can just bring back the Wild Cohort feat.

You could also ask your GM if he would allow you to take the Cavalier's Beast Rider archetype (just 1 level) allowing Pegasus. That archetype already allows Tyrannosaurus, which is normally a CR9 creature.

You could take Beast Speaker instead of Monster Cohort. This would let you have Pagasus as a companion by level 7 with boon companion. You then have to take the Mastery feat to get the ability to ride it, basing Pegasus on Hipogriff.

Anyway you cut it you will need to spend a considerable amount of resources. Luckily you aren't trying to get something more exotic, cause then you really would need to homebrew.

beast speaker only allows Basilisk, Behir, Bulette, Death worm and sun falcon. Hipogriff is from a different i listed above

beast rider cavalier doesnt get the ability to choose anything other than the standard option until level 4

beast rider wrote:
Medium beast riders can choose a camel or horse mount at 1st level. At 4th level, a Medium beast rider can also choose an allosaurus, ankylosaurus, arsinoitherium, aurochs, bison, brachiosaurus, elephant, glyptodon, hippopotamus, lion, mastodon, megaloceros, snapping turtle (giant), tiger, triceratops, or tyrannosaurus as his mount. Additional mounts might be available with GM approval.

I took it from the PFSRD list of animal companion that said beast speaker allows it (even if its 3rd party).

As for the beast rider thing. I was basically saying "bend the rules a little, it says the GM might allow more".

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