Can you not turn a verdant weapon into a sword? Or can you turn it into a wooden sword?
In other words, is the "no metal" mentioned in the feat text a limitation, or a description that the resulting weapon it becomes has no metal in it?
I ask because I'm planning on playing a ghoran druid, and I want to be able to wield it as a glaive or scythe, via my Ghoran Weapon Familiarity feat.
If I cannot transform it into a glaive or scythe, what CAN I transform it into? Last time I checked, even staffs used for war were often capped in metal. Could I make a sharpened stick (spear), or is that out too due to spears sometimes having metal heads?
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Your weapon options seem to be:
Club
Staff
Fangwire (Maybe)
Fighting Stick
Nunchaku
Probing Cane
Sansetsukon
Tonfa
Whipstaff
Atlatl (but not the darts it uses for ammo)
Boomerang
Shortbow (Composite version is a 'maybe')
Longbow (Composite version is a 'maybe')
Daikyu
Thorn Whip
Whip
Aren't the hinges of nunchaku and sansetsukon made of metal?
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Aren't the hinges of nunchaku and sansetsukon made of metal?
They don't have hinges. The sections are connected by rope or chain and we know that the verdant weapon can make vine ropes.
The nunchaku is constructed of two wooden or metal bars connected by a short length of rope or chain.
The sansetsukon, also known as a sanjiegun or three-section staff, is made up of three wooden staff segments, each about 14 inches in length. The staff sections are connected by short lengths of cord or chain, similar to nunchaku.
Well, at least we have that.
Personally I feel the list of available weapons is still rather limited, and would prefer it be that the end result of a weapon is made of wood, rather than base weapons not be an option if they involve metal.
To be honest, there isn't much benefit to using a verdant weapon over a normal weapon (and a druid can use a metal weapon just fine).
Druids are already constrained by weapon proficiency to simple weapons.
And generally speaking, I think a druid focused on wild shaping ends up better offensively than one focused on weapon use. So why hold them back in this way.
For the usefulness of Verdant Weapon, I see it as being about equivalent to other options meant for infiltration missions or other scenario types where the characters want or need to appear to be unarmed. Another one that comes to mind immediately is Magus's Spirit Sheath.
As for materials, personally I consider 'wood' to be one of the material types available for crafting things out of. So with a few exceptions for things that would be completely implausible from a narrative standpoint (such as leather armor or rope), I don't see anything wrong with allowing it to be an Uncommon material to make things out of such as swords and scale mail.
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It also turns your main weapon into your primal focus, so you don't have to either switch back-and-forth between your focus and your weapon, or occupy both of your hands with both of them. Makes having a weapon-and-shield build more possible, too.
We got at least darkwood and peach wood listed in the materials
RAW verdant weapon says:
You spend 10 minutes focusing primal energy into a seed, imprinting it with the potential of a single level 0 weapon you are trained with and that has no mechanical parts or metal components.
since the first line is mostly flavor in feats one could argue that weapons made from other non-metal materials like:
-'bone' which also incorporates other sturdy animal materials-warpglass
-stone
-certain leathers
are also eligible for verdant weapon
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The problem is that if you start allowing things that can be made out of alternate non-metal materials you end up with everything being allowed.
Because with warpglass for example, you can make any weapon.
So the restriction in verdant weapon is probably just looking at base weapons only. In addition, special materials definitely increase the level of a weapon so that it's not level 0. To me, that clearly says using any weapon special material to qualify is a no go.
Here is my current list.
Take away those that the druid isn't proficient in, that you likely don't have access to (that are Uncommon), and that require additional components (such as ammunition) and you have...
...the club and the staff.
I could get that without spending a feat by saying I pick up a stick off the ground.
Here is my current list.Take away those that the druid isn't proficient in, that you likely don't have access to (that are Uncommon), and that require additional components (such as ammunition) and you have...
...the club and the staff.
I could get that without spending a feat by saying I pick up a stick off the ground.
Well then, I apologize for trying to be helpful. I'll mute this thread so that I don't bother you again.
I could get that without spending a feat by saying I pick up a stick off the ground.
But you won't be able to transform it into a seed or use it as a focus or later take another feat to treat it as cold iron and silver (although I wouldn't blame you for not looking at the latter level 10 is kind of out there).
It's expensive, but peachwood weapons are an option at high level play.
Also, per the rules on magical staves, "staves are also staff weapons. They can be etched with fundamental runes but not property runes. This doesn't alter any of their spellcasting abilities."
While this is correct, there aren't usually many sticks lying around banquets, for example...Here is my current list.Take away those that the druid isn't proficient in, that you likely don't have access to (that are Uncommon), and that require additional components (such as ammunition) and you have...
...the club and the staff.
I could get that without spending a feat by saying I pick up a stick off the ground.
Plenty of chair legs and table legs and the like though.
The more I read, the more the feat seems to be either for Crossclassing or a Trap Option
Or a roleplay option. It might be attractive for aesthetic reasons. It lands somewhere between mixed and low for power considerations.