Liquid glass shuriken / crystal chakram

[Conde]

Hello,

Can't find anything on that and no source that says otherwise.

Technically, the Crystal Chakram is already made of glass. But since it is an item by itself and not a modified item, could it be possible to make it from Liquid Glass?

What for shurikens? Can they be made of Liquid Glass? I don't see why not.

Sure they are going to be broken and you won't be able to throw them immediatly after. BUT 50 would be probably enough for the day. And you wouldn't have to enchant more. You would have 50 shurikens enchanted, throw them, collect the pieces and wait 24 hours and bim. You have your shurikens back.

Is that right?

[Mysterious Stranger]

Shaped and carved from quartz or stranger subterranean crystals, these circular throwing discs have jagged razor-sharp edges. When a crystal chakram strikes a foe, the weapon shatters into tiny sharp fragments; if it misses, there is a 50% chance the chakram shatters when it hits the ground or another solid object; otherwise it can be retrieved and used again. A crystal chakram is treated as ammunition for the purpose of creating magic weapons.

Crystal Chakrams are not made of glass they are made out of quartz or other crystals. They are also not shuriken.

[Conde]

Mysterious Stranger wrote:

Shaped and carved from quartz or stranger subterranean crystals, these circular throwing discs have jagged razor-sharp edges. When a crystal chakram strikes a foe, the weapon shatters into tiny sharp fragments; if it misses, there is a 50% chance the chakram shatters when it hits the ground or another solid object; otherwise it can be retrieved and used again. A crystal chakram is treated as ammunition for the purpose of creating magic weapons.

Crystal Chakrams are not made of glass they are made out of quartz or other crystals. They are also not shuriken.

I figured they are not shuriken. But they are treated as aumminition for the purpose of creating magic item. So the enchantment is cheaper.

But yeah that would be a bit of a stretch to be able to make them out of liquid glass.

But could you make shuriken out of Liquid Glass? That is the question. And would that work by RAW? You throw a shuriken, it breaks, you put the pieces together and the shuriken kept its enchantment and ready to use again?

[Chell Raighn]

Nothing prevents you from making shuriken from liquid glass… however… they still may be unrecoverable. If you camp out and wait a day sure, they will reassemble and repair partially… but you would be unlikley to be able to recover all of them right after a fight, and if you leave and return later there is a high probability that a critter or something may have ran off with a few of them… you’d be better served paying for the Indestructible enchantment if you want permanently recoverable enchanted ammunition

[Mysterious Stranger]

Enchanted ammunition is destroyed on a hit. Simply repairing the damage to the item will not restore the enchantment. You can use the cantrip Mending to repair a destroyed item, but it does not restore their magic abilities. The 2nd level spell Make Whole does restore the magical abilities, but that is because the spell specifically states it does. Liquid glass works more like Mending than Make Whole so it is not going to do what you want it to.

[Azothath]

Conde wrote:

Hello,

Can't find anything on that and no source that says otherwise.

Technically, the Crystal Chakram is already made of glass. But since it is an item by itself and not a modified item, could it be possible to make it from Liquid Glass?

What for shurikens? Can they be made of Liquid Glass? I don't see why not.

Sure they are going to be broken and you won't be able to throw them immediatly after. BUT 50 would be probably enough for the day. And you wouldn't have to enchant more. You would have 50 shurikens enchanted, throw them, collect the pieces and wait 24 hours and bim. You have your shurikens back.

Is that right?

[!]Liquid Glass Special Material{scroll down} +0(+1)@Full HP & regen up to 2HP/d, +800gp wpn, 250gp/lb.

Chakram mrtl rngd wpn 1 gp 1d6 1d8 x2 30 ft. 1 lb. S —
Crystal chakram extc rngd wpn 20 gp 1d4 1d6 18-20/x2 — 2 lbs. S — : note crystal(crystal planes), not glass(amorphous solid).

Normally as a weapon & special material you go with the basic Chakram and pay the Liq Glass extra cost. Enchantment means +300gp for MW then the magic cost. Then you'd have to retrieve it, bag it, and let it 'heal' any damage (if any).

Using the Crystal Chakram you need an exotic weapon proficiency{feat}. Then craft 10(GM call but highly likely) at 820gp +300gp MW each as they are a weapon. As ammunition any enchantment would expire after the first hit per item. It would also be difficult to retrieve all the pieces, likely a Percptn DC20 check (mov actn) taking a full round per crystal chakram. Think about it - picking out 2lbs of 'glass splinters' per crystal chakram off the forest mulch or worse a sandy beach.... It is also possible using GM sensibility that after picking up 5 crystal chakrams worth of shards (say one search check fails) they may heal back into 4 crystal chakrams to make up the missing pieces.
IMO the only sensible way is to get Sharding +2 magic rngd wpn property then you get a range of 10ft.... it is overly convoluted and expensive. Just get 2 MW hvy crossbows and call it a day.