Troglodyte, Zombie template and Stench


Rules Questions


So a Troglodyte is a Med Humanoid making them eligible for the Zombie template. Under that template many special abilities and all Defensive abilities of the base creature are lost, but in the Troglodyte stat block, Stench is listed outside of Offense and Defense. Now, looking under the universal monster rules, Stench is called a "special ability" in the fluff, but is never designated as EX, SU, etc.

Would a Troglodyte Zombie lose Stench? I want to partner some akatas with the No Breath ability (so they're immune to the Stench aura) with some trogs and also make some Void Zombies out of them as well.


I don't have a rule citation, just a smart alec justification: do you really think that a dead trog would smell better than a live one?


Stench can be found among the Universal Monster Rules, there it's listed as Ex.

Zombies lose a lot of things, but since stench is an aura (not listed among defense, feats, special qualities etc.), such a zombie appearantly would keep it.

If it were different, personally I'd ignore the rules and make it stink anyway. A creature combining the powers of two is a good tool to get attention from the players. And this combination is a great one, let me make some notes...


The description of Stench states that the creature secretes an oily chemical that causes living creatures within 30 feet to become sickened if they fail their save. When a creature dies its organs including glands stop working. So, how is the dead troglodyte secreting the chemical? I could see a freshly created troglodyte still having enough of the chemical on them to retain the ability for a very short time. After about an hour or so the chemical would dry up and without a functioning gland to secrete more the troglodyte would no longer have the Stench ability.


Mysterious Stranger wrote:
The description of Stench states that the creature secretes an oily chemical that causes living creatures within 30 feet to become sickened if they fail their save. When a creature dies its organs including glands stop working. So, how is the dead troglodyte secreting the chemical? I could see a freshly created troglodyte still having enough of the chemical on them to retain the ability for a very short time. After about an hour or so the chemical would dry up and without a functioning gland to secrete more the troglodyte would no longer have the Stench ability.

How and why does a ghast smell? It exudes the stench of the grave or some such. Well, in life, the trog had glands; in death, it is a bloated, rotting corpse saturated in the last remnants of the oil it once secreted. I'm not too worried about the mechanism, but the RAW of it is all.

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