Can a feat with the Rage trait be used while not raging?


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According to this webpage, to benefit from the feats that have the Rage trait, you must be raging. But I found out that several feats like Acute Scent, Acute Vision, Animal Skin, Awesome Blow, Brutal Bully, Dragon's Rage Breath, Fast Movement, Furious Bully, Raging Athlete, and Raging Intimidation don't have the Rage trait and yet their description texts clearly mention that those feats are activated while raging. I also discovered that some feats like Cleave, Friendly Toss, Furious Grab, Furious Sprint, Instinctive Strike, Knockback, Mage Hunter, No Escape, Oversized Throw, Renewed Vigor, Shake It Off, and Terrifying Howl have the Rage trait and yet their description texts do not mention they are activated only when raging. So, even if a feat does have the Rage trait and yet its description text does not mention that it can be used only when you are raging, I can safely assume that it will be activated even when my barbarian PC is not raging?


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Rage wrote:
You must be raging to use abilities with the rage trait, and they end automatically when you stop raging.

If it has the trait, you need to Rage.


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Feats don't have the rage traits, it's the action they provide that has the Rage trait. That's why Acute Scent and Fast Movement don't have it and why they need to specify that you get the bonus while raging. On the other hand, actions with the Rage trait can only be taken while raging and as such don't need to specify that you must be raging.
So, no, you can't use Rage actions unless you are raging.


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Yes. There are two ways of handling whether or not an action or ability can be used while Raging or not. Either by clearly stating it in the rule text of the action or ability, or by adding the Rage trait. It is not necessary to do both.


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Paizo apparently changed their mind on how to use/handle the Rage trait between the CRB and the APG. The passive rage abilities in the CRB all lack the trait and state in their description that they only work in Rage. The passive Rage abilities in the APG do in fact have the trait.

They probably added it for clarity.


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Raging Intimidation gives Demoralize and Scare to Death the Rage trait when necessary to be able to Intimidate while raging since you can't use Concentration trait actions while raging. That's what that fest's text means.


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Oh my,

Now I want a new feat "moment of rage".
Which gives the effects of being raging ( no temp hp) until the end of the turn.

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Blave wrote:

Paizo apparently changed their mind on how to use/handle the Rage trait between the CRB and the APG. The passive rage abilities in the CRB all lack the trait and state in their description that they only work in Rage. The passive Rage abilities in the APG do in fact have the trait.

They probably added it for clarity.

I presume they were initially concerned about how the Mighty Rage ability (allowing the free use of a Rage trait ability) interacted with passive abilities, so they just didn't give the trait to passive abilities in the CRB.

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