Aberzombie |
Just watched a video with a rumor that Sacha Baron Cohen has been cast as Mephisto for the MCU, and will first appear in an Ironheart show. Then he’ll apparently show up in other stuff.
I think the only thing I’ve ever heard of him being in is that Borat stuff. I’ve never watched any of it, because what little I saw made me think he was an idiot. So I’m not particularly excited about this news.
Honestly, the more I hear and see about the future MCU tells me I’m definitely no longer in the target audience about 90% of the time. Sucks, but I’m sure I’ll find something better to watch, or just go back and watch old stuff.
Again, this is just a rumor.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Just watched a video with a rumor that Sacha Baron Cohen has been cast as Mephisto for the MCU, and will first appear in an Ironheart show. Then he’ll apparently show up in other stuff.
I think the only thing I’ve ever heard of him being in is that Borat stuff. I’ve never watched any of it, because what little I saw made me think he was an idiot. So I’m not particularly excited about this news.
Honestly, the more I hear and see about the future MCU tells me I’m definitely no longer in the target audience about 90% of the time. Sucks, but I’m sure I’ll find something better to watch, or just go back and watch old stuff.
Again, this is just a rumor.
If you think his Borat (and Ali G) stuff is cause he's an idiot, not sure you're in on the joke. He plays those characters to make other people think he's legit, and the humor is in what he gets others to say or do. But he's also been in a ton of stuff in more traditional acting roles.
I hadn't heard the rumor, but he'd be a pretty fun and intersting Mephisto.
Aberzombie |
If you think his Borat (and Ali G) stuff is cause he's an idiot, not sure you're in on the joke. He plays those characters to make other people think he's legit, and the humor is in what he gets others to say or do. But he's also been in a ton of stuff in more traditional acting roles.
I’ve seen enough of him to know he’s not actually an idiot. For me he just comes across that way. I’d say it’s simply that I have a (very) different taste in humor.
I can’t recall ever seeing or hearing of him in any roles other than Borat and the other one you mentioned (which I’d thankfully forgotten about). I think that’s what bums me out, because I’ve only ever seen him acting the fool (or at least in foolish situations), and I’d prefer Mephisto to be a bit more terrifying and serious. Like Peter Fonda.
captain yesterday |
I heavily dislike Sascha Baron Cohen and his brand of humor, but he is certainly is a good actor and given the MCU's casting director, Sarah Halley Finn, is a f+~*ing genius, so if she and Feige have cast him in the MCU, as Mephisto or anyone else, I trust he is right for the part.
I've only seen him in dramatic roles so I can't really say anything about his comedy.
Aberzombie |
Rumor: Marvel Seeking To Cast ‘Aquaman’ Star Yahya Abdul-Mateen II As Race-Swapped Wonder Man
An interesting rumor. As far as I can recall, I’ve only ever seen him in two things: Aquaman and the utterly craptastic Matrix: Resurrections. So that’s one villain role and one hero role, each of which I thought he did well in (lack of film quality aside). Plus, he’s young. If they get him now, he could pull off that role for another 10 years or more.
Although, I thought I saw another rumor awhile back that they might try to get Henry Cavill for the same role. I’d be good either way.
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Tristan d'Ambrosius |
Rumor: Marvel Seeking To Cast ‘Aquaman’ Star Yahya Abdul-Mateen II As Race-Swapped Wonder Man
As far as I can recall, I’ve only ever seen him in two things: Aquaman and the utterly craptastic Matrix: Resurrections.
Candyman (2021) HBO's Watchmen
Aberzombie |
Aberzombie wrote:Candyman (2021) HBO's WatchmenRumor: Marvel Seeking To Cast ‘Aquaman’ Star Yahya Abdul-Mateen II As Race-Swapped Wonder Man
As far as I can recall, I’ve only ever seen him in two things: Aquaman and the utterly craptastic Matrix: Resurrections.
Yes, I saw those on his IMDb entry, neither of which I’ve watched. Hence the “I’ve only ever seen him…” part.
Thomas Seitz |
I would love DQ's suggestion for Squadron Supreme, especially for having the only TRUE flash (other than John Wesley Shipp) do something cool and different.
As for Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, I enjoyed him in Watchmen a lot. Never got to watch Resurrections, or Candyman. But I think he would be a good choice for Simon Williams, given that Nathan Fillion is a) too old and b) too busy with his cop show.
Aberzombie |
‘Wonder Man’: Yahya Abdul-Mateen II Tapped To Lead Marvel Series For Disney+
I thought he did an adequate job as Black Manta, but haven’t seen him in anything else. If he gets decent show runners, this could be cool. Considering this is current MCU, though, I won’t hold my breath.
I’ll be honest, when I first heard this I was asking myself “Why Wonder Man?”. Maybe Disney thinks since they’ve had success with other less known characters, they can do it here.
Andostre |
I’ll be honest, when I first heard this I was asking myself “Why Wonder Man?”. Maybe Disney thinks since they’ve had success with other less known characters, they can do it here.
Not disagreeing, but who else do they have to work with? In terms of primarily Avengers characters to bring to the screen, I feel like they've gone through all of their A-listers, and I'd rank Wonder Man as a solid B-lister.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Thomas Seitz |
Wonder man is fairly important to Vision's backstory in some instances. As for other Avengers, I mean we still haven't had the New Avengers, or the Mighty Avengers (though Monica and America Chavez plus Carol are semi-important to that one along with Ultimates and Blue Marvel.)
I for one am happy to see a very good actor in Simon Williams' role.
Aberzombie |
Aberzombie wrote:I’ll be honest, when I first heard this I was asking myself “Why Wonder Man?”. Maybe Disney thinks since they’ve had success with other less known characters, they can do it here.Not disagreeing, but who else do they have to work with? In terms of primarily Avengers characters to bring to the screen, I feel like they've gone through all of their A-listers, and I'd rank Wonder Man as a solid B-lister.
Good points. And, yes, definite B-lister. To we non-Normies, at least.
Aberzombie |
Also, isn't Wonderman integral to West Coast Avengers stories, which also is where the Vision storyline seems to be going? Expecting some overlap between these two shows.
It’ll be interesting to see how they handle Wonder Man/Vision, since the origin of everyone’s favorite Mjolnir picking up android is slightly different this time around.
thejeff |
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JoelF847 wrote:Also, isn't Wonderman integral to West Coast Avengers stories, which also is where the Vision storyline seems to be going? Expecting some overlap between these two shows.It’ll be interesting to see how they handle Wonder Man/Vision, since the origin of everyone’s favorite Mjolnir picking up android is slightly different this time around.
Yeah, hard to duplicate the same ties when Vision came first.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Aberzombie |
Apropos of nothing in particular, I was thinking the other day of the new MCU “special presentations” from Disney. They already have Werewolf by Night. Guardians of the Galaxy is coming up in December.
I thought a cool idea for another special presentation would be a Sue Storm secret agent special. Depending, of course, on who they get to play Sue Storm. More so on who they would get to write and run the show. At the moment, I think they could do pretty good letting the people behind Werewolf By Night do it.
Anyway, it was a thought I had.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
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I have read that Marvel is planning more one-shot special presentations overall.
As for the director of Werewolf by Night, I watched the making of special for it (Director by Night) and was surprised to find out that he actually is a successful composer of scores for movies, and this was his big debut as a director. Pretty cool background on him they cover in the documentary, worth watching.
Aberzombie |
Disney Shocker! Bob Iger Back As CEO, Bob Chapek Out
Of course, this news affect way more than just the MCU.
I can’t say I’m surprised. Except about brining Iger back. I thought for sure Chapek’s replacement would be someone else.
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Greylurker |
New Marvels trailer just popped up and it looks like a lot of fun. Set to come out in November
basic idea is what we figured Carol, Monica and Kamahla's powers get entangled and now the three of them keep switching places.
Carol and Monica being all serious while Kamahla geeks out is great.
Aberzombie |
Saw an article saying Disney is delaying more MCU big screen products. Deadpool, Captain America, Blade and Thunderbolts have all been pushed back. That's on top of what I hear about a bunch of delays on Disney+ products as well.
Of course, I'm not really a fan of the current MCU, so it's no skin off my nose. And I enjoy seeing Disney (hopefully) go down the crapper. Still, I know there are those out there with an appetite for the films, so I feel for them. A little bit, anyway.
At the same time, if it lets them get their ducks in a row, and start putting out better stuff, that'd be pretty cool. And they're still better off than the DCU cinematic...whatever it is.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
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I hope and expect they'll simply recast. They've done it before, and it hasn't been an issue, and they've set up Kang too much to abort and go a different direction. As for different variant, I expect the plan was to always have multiple variants in play, so that won't change.
And Avengers Kang Dynasty had already been pushed out a year due to the strikes, so that gives them time to re-cast.
GM SuperTumbler |
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I think they are making a mistake even having a "villain" for this multiverse saga. If I were in charge of charting this course, I'd do an X-Men movie, a FF movie, and then bring everyone together in Secret Wars. You don't need a villain. Have the Beyonder bring everyone together, do the old "winner universe gets to continue existing, everyone else dies." Then they somehow talk Beyonder out of it and universes get smushed together.
Done.
Andostre |
I think they are making a mistake even having a "villain" for this multiverse saga. If I were in charge of charting this course, I'd do an X-Men movie, a FF movie, and then bring everyone together in Secret Wars. You don't need a villain. Have the Beyonder bring everyone together, do the old "winner universe gets to continue existing, everyone else dies." Then they somehow talk Beyonder out of it and universes get smushed together.
One of my gripes about MCU movies is that they keep killing off iconic villains, so this seems like a good way to justify in their weird movie-writing brains that they don't have to kill off the antagonist(s).
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I think they are making a mistake even having a "villain" for this multiverse saga. If I were in charge of charting this course, I'd do an X-Men movie, a FF movie, and then bring everyone together in Secret Wars. You don't need a villain. Have the Beyonder bring everyone together, do the old "winner universe gets to continue existing, everyone else dies." Then they somehow talk Beyonder out of it and universes get smushed together.
Done.
I think one of the (many) mistakes Marvel has made is bringing in Kang or any other villain too much and too soon. Thanos was an Easter egg for several movies before we got to see more directly what he was capable off in GOTG. And then, it was more specific to his impact on Nebula and Gamora, with some establishing his conqueror status. He didn't get fully fleshed out until when he mattered in Infinity War, which arguably was all about him, and it worked very well.
Kang should not have been the villain in Quantumania; poor Ant-Man got Age of Ultroned in that trying to set up the next big thing detracted from the movie's focus. He was brought in too much too soon.
His presence in Loki was more essential--and Marvel introducing major plot elements in series they seem to simultaneously treat as optional side stories is itself a problem--but I think perhaps they could have worked with He who remains differently and more hinted at the threat of Kang.
(I am on my phone, and Autocorrect keeps wanting to change "Kang" to "Lang" so apparently our robot overlords think the way to recast him is have Kang's essence survive somehow through Scott and then Paul Rudd can play him. ;) (this should absolutely NOT be taken as a serious theory or recommendation)).
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
I actually think it keeps things fresh to mix up the pacing of each Saga. The first 3 phases were infinity stones and Thanos, and he was at most in the background until the end when he showed up and that was great.
I think in the Multiverse sage phases, having it be different, with Kang early and sprinkled throughout is a different pacing and that's also good. It would get boring if each 3 phases your big bad was going to be Easter Eggs and behind the scenes mastermind until the end.
Maybe in the next one they could start with the big bad, and need the entire next Saga for the heroes to put things right. Like if the first movie was more like Infinity War, then the entire next 3 phases combined were needed to stop them, instead of the very next movie Endgame.
Either way, I'm a fan of variety of pacing, themes, styles, and sub-genres.
GM SuperTumbler |
GM SuperTumbler wrote:I think they are making a mistake even having a "villain" for this multiverse saga. If I were in charge of charting this course, I'd do an X-Men movie, a FF movie, and then bring everyone together in Secret Wars. You don't need a villain. Have the Beyonder bring everyone together, do the old "winner universe gets to continue existing, everyone else dies." Then they somehow talk Beyonder out of it and universes get smushed together.
Done.
I think one of the (many) mistakes Marvel has made is bringing in Kang or any other villain too much and too soon. Thanos was an Easter egg for several movies before we got to see more directly what he was capable off in GOTG. And then, it was more specific to his impact on Nebula and Gamora, with some establishing his conqueror status. He didn't get fully fleshed out until when he mattered in Infinity War, which arguably was all about him, and it worked very well.
Kang should not have been the villain in Quantumania; poor Ant-Man got Age of Ultroned in that trying to set up the next big thing detracted from the movie's focus. He was brought in too much too soon.
His presence in Loki was more essential--and Marvel introducing major plot elements in series they seem to simultaneously treat as optional side stories is itself a problem--but I think perhaps they could have worked with He who remains differently and more hinted at the threat of Kang.
(I am on my phone, and Autocorrect keeps wanting to change "Kang" to "Lang" so apparently our robot overlords think the way to recast him is have Kang's essence survive somehow through Scott and then Paul Rudd can play him. ;) (this should absolutely NOT be taken as a serious theory or recommendation)).
I would absolutely back Paul Rudd as Kang.