Persistent Focus + Telekinetic Athleticism ?


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Liberty's Edge

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Hello all! Long time since I last posted (11 years next week!) I am about to turn over my campaign to another GM and join my PCs as a character, and I have a question regarding my build.

I am building a Soulknife and I was going to take Speed of Thought and Persistent Focus (Speed of Thought). But then I realized that if I can apply Persistent Focus to a Blade Skill - in this case, Telekinetic Athleticism - then I can not only save myself a feat, but actually get the benefit of two additional feats as well.

The problem is, how is "psionic ability" defined? If it is simply any ability that requires a psionic focus, then it would seem that this is a legal build. But I would like to confirm for certain how "psionic ability" is defined in this case.

Horizon Hunters

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Uh, what game system are you talking about? None of those terms come up for 1e/2e or Starfinder.

Since I have no idea what system you're talking about, here's some Generic Advice: Ask your GM.

Ah, it's 3rd Party. That forum is that way.

Shadow Lodge

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It looks like you are referring to a 3rd Party 1st edition product (Dreamscarred Press' Psionics Unleashed), so I'll flag this thread to be transferred to the appropriate forum.


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Wrong forum, flagged for a move.

Cordell Kintner wrote:
Uh, what game system are you talking about?

PF1e Psionics. Third party stuff. It's pretty neat though.

But to answer OP's question as best I can, "ability" isn't a formally defined game term as far as I can tell. Pretty much everything you have that lets you do something is an ability of some kind, so this combo should be fine.

Liberty's Edge

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Squiggit wrote:

Wrong forum, flagged for a move.

Cordell Kintner wrote:
Uh, what game system are you talking about?

PF1e Psionics. Third party stuff. It's pretty neat though.

But to answer OP's question as best I can, "ability" isn't a formally defined game term as far as I can tell. Pretty much everything you have that lets you do something is an ability of some kind, so this combo should be fine.

To be honest, we've been using PFSRD as our primary resource for so long, I didn't even notice it was third party.

My personal definition landed on "any ability that requires a character to have a power point pool or to have or expend psionic focus". The new GM is tentatively in agreement, but I would definitely appreciate seeing how others rule.

Liberty's Edge

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Hey, I apologize, I was doing this on my phone and yeah, looks like I fat-fingered into the wrong forum. My apologies!

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Moved from Pathfinder Second Edition Rules Questions to PF1 3pp rules questions

Liberty's Edge

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I agree with you and your GM that a blade skill is a perfectly acceptable choice for persistent focus.

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