How viable would it be for Paizo to support a digital-only fork of the rules that wouldn't have print limitations and support continuous balance patches?


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Sanityfaerie wrote:
I'll say that my personal experience is that AoN and the PFSRD were my points of entry. When I have conversations in which I can evangelize (sadly, not yet particularly successfully) they're things that i can point people to as well.

That's how I got into the hobby too. From an accessibility--both in the sense of being easy to find, and being usable by those with different needs when it comes to computer access--it's hard to beat what Paizo and AoN/PFSRD did. Before I stumbled on Pathfinder I had to rely on others to read the books to me to know what my options were, or not play the game at all. The ability to create and read about my own characters was what really pulled me into PF's orbit and kept me there, even after other games started to follow suit with their own SRDs or more readable PDFs.


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QuidEst wrote:

League of Legends got nearly 2 billion in revenue in 2020. Their balance patches are not their source of revenue; they are their customer retention. When you figure out how Paizo can get in on that sweet microtransaction money with multiple tens of millions of players... Yeah, then I'll expect a dedicated team just for regular updates to existing content.

Paizo does fix some stuff. But c'mon, their revenue across all lines is three orders of magnitude lower than LoL by itself.

I can't wait until the Maid Cafe Skin for Valeros drops, that's going to be a sick season. The Lem taunt from the last season pass is pretty cool too, I'm really glad they made it a time-limited drop too, that way it feels special.

Not even touching the rest of this thread, because wow no thanks, lol, but I just needed you to know something: In the absolute nicest way possible, I both hate and love you for typing that post into existence, lol.

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I like occasional updates to fix broken stuff. Whether that's broken because it's unbalanced, missing some DC or something, or just not actually able to do the job it was intended to do.

However, I don't think these should be high frequency updates. RPGs are basically software that runs on human minds, and installing updates everywhere is not really any less painful than the constant nagging of various programs on your computer that want you to update them. More painful actually; you can't just click "install", you actually have to read through and re-learn all that stuff to actually really receive the errata. If that happens every week and you have a few weeks where you're on holiday or busy with work or personal life and such and you fall behind... This gets fatigueing.

I'd be behind a nice straightforward periodic upgrade, like there's the Big Summer Patch and the Big Winter Patch or something, with a well-organised changelog and even reference sheets like "if you're coming from printing 2 to current printing 4, here's what changed".


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I like occasional updates to fix broken stuff. Whether that's broken because it's unbalanced, missing some DC or something, or just not actually able to do the job it was intended to do.

However, I don't think these should be high frequency updates. RPGs are basically software that runs on human minds, and installing updates everywhere is not really any less painful than the constant nagging of various programs on your computer that want you to update them. More painful actually; you can't just click "install", you actually have to read through and re-learn all that stuff to actually really receive the errata. If that happens every week and you have a few weeks where you're on holiday or busy with work or personal life and such and you fall behind... This gets fatigueing.

I'd be behind a nice straightforward periodic upgrade, like there's the Big Summer Patch and the Big Winter Patch or something, with a well-organised changelog and even reference sheets like "if you're coming from printing 2 to current printing 4, here's what changed".

Yeah, I feel like the maximum one could reasonably ask is quarterly (every 3 months) errata to problems that have been brought up. Even that is probably going to require a couple people dedicated just to that, which may be more than Paizo can reasonably afford to do.

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Well on the one hand it's about Paizo's capacity. But I also think on the consumer side, update fatigue would set in if you did too many small patches.

It's a bit like looking at a heap of unread newsletters in your mailbox. Most of them might contain something you're interested in, but not right now.

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