Ankh Lesser Talisman question


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Item reads...

Ankh Talisman: This cross has a loop at the top. When a living creature wears it as a talisman, it radiates a soft, golden glow. When the wearer is hit by a creature with the energy drain ability, he receives a saving throw to negate the energy drain, using the DC listed for the ability (which usually determines whether temporary negative levels become permanent). If the creature’s energy drain allows an initial saving throw, the talisman grants a second saving throw if the wearer fails his initial saving throw. If he succeeds at the saving throw granted by the talisman, the talisman releases a blast of force that automatically hits the attacker (as per force punch). Moderate necromancy; CL 7th; death ward, force punch.

So the question is, would this protect someone from an Enervation spell being cast on them?


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No, it specifically has to be a creature with the Energy Drain ability.


ok, but would it help with the negative level\s gained from being rised from the dead\ resurrected etc? it specifically call out to work "just as if it had been hit by an energy-draining creature" ?

i think that even if it might, it would depend on when does he gain the negative level (say "when it is raised"), while he was alive or not. as the item say "..When a living creature wears it as a talisman.." (then again, dead creatures can't really get negative levels, can they?).

EDIT: good thing the spell's negative level doesn't grant a save. if it would the caster (who is touching the target to be rised) might get force punched ;)

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zza ni wrote:

ok, but would it help with the negative level\s gained from being rised from the dead\ resurrected etc? it specifically call out to work "just as if it had been hit by an energy-draining creature" ?

i think that even if it might, it would depend on when does he gain the negative level (say "when it is raised"), while he was alive or not. as the item say "..When a living creature wears it as a talisman.." (then again, dead creatures can't really get negative levels, can they?).

EDIT: good thing the spell's negative level doesn't grant a save. if it would the caster (who is touching the target to be rised) might get force punched ;)

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When the wearer is hit by a creature with the energy drain ability,

Raise dead/Resurrection isn't a creature and doesn't hit you. And they haven't a save to remove the negative levels, so there is no DC for the save.


i might have argued about how the spell work "just as if it had been hit by an energy-draining creature" (and it's still a touch spell)

but not having a dc is a problem. good catch.

i can still see some gm house rule it in and use the general spell dc for this.
(more so since the ankh symbol itself is used a lot in folklore\games with relation to bringing back the dead to life)

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